Uffz. Rohleder Posted February 4, 2016 Posted February 4, 2016 Hello all, i have this interesting Portrait since many years in my collection - along with other photos of this man. You see here just a cut-out - its a little tricky to make a good photo pf a photo The Cap Badge looks like "4. Armee" Anyone have an idea of the unit and rank of this man? Greetings Stefan
Chip Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 Mannschaft, Soldat. Basic soldier. The shoulder strap is not clear enough to determine the unit.
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 You can almost see an artillery grenade on the straps, then you look again and you can not.... tough call...
Uffz. Rohleder Posted February 5, 2016 Author Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Here a better shot of the shoulder board - best i can do so far. Edited February 5, 2016 by Uffz. Rohleder
KIR Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Hi, maybe Fussartillerie (zwei gekreuzte Langgranaten mit Zahl(en)!? Best regards, Jens Edited February 5, 2016 by KIR
Uffz. Rohleder Posted February 5, 2016 Author Posted February 5, 2016 Hard to say. I try to figure it out since month :/
Chip Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Too tough for me. I can't really see any of the suggested possibilities.
The Prussian Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) Hello! The austian 4th army was structured in 1915 with: Division Stöger-Steiner XIV.Army Corps IX.Army Corps 31.Inf.Brig. 11.Honved Division The only german unit was the 47.Res.Div. 47.Res.Div. (Westphalia) Res.Inf.Rgt. 217-220 47.Res.Kav.Abt. 47.Res.Feldart.Rgt. 47.Res.Pio.Komp. 47.Res.Brückenpionier.Komp. (Pont.Eng.) 47.Res.San.Komp. I´m not sure about the shoulder strap, but I don´t think to see a simple number. Probably artillery. Battles under austrian command: 5.-17.12.14: Limanowa-Lapanow 18.12.14-1.5.15: Dunajec, Riwka, Ostrow 1.-3.5.15: Gorlice-Tarnow 13.5.-23.6.15: Leg-San 24.-30.6.15: San, Wisznia 20.7.-9.8.15: Wysnika, Wieprz (Trciniec-Abelina, Poniatowa, Kurow-Markuszow, Jagrody) The solldier wears the austrian Iron cross of Merit with the crown. I have an example of RIR 220 The division recieved later an own cap badge. Edited February 6, 2016 by The Prussian
Chip Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Andy, This last photo has probably been discussed before, but did we ever get an answer as to what this collar button is? Is there a date on this photo? Thanks, Chip
The Prussian Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Hi Chip! No, I can´t say anything about the button. Probably he lost the original one... The reverse is blank.
Chip Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 This soldier looks quite young and so I was wondering how he could have been in this division in 1915. The shoulder strap is interesting too. It looks to be the width of a M1915 (4,5cm) but it has piping and it appears to be sewn into the shoulder seam. Perhaps it is just the angle and it is actually the width of a M1907 (5,5cm) and perhaps they are removable straps. That would be the logical explanation. Chip
The Prussian Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 The piping is correct. Kraus says, RIR 217-224 hat yellow pipings. Yellow appeared nearly black.
Chip Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Andy, I wasn't questioning that the piping was correct for a M1907, but rather that it looked narrow, like a M15, which would have had white piping. As said, it's probably just the angle that makes it look that way and therefore, everything is OK. Chip
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