Georg14 Posted August 3, 2016 Posted August 3, 2016 "That doesn't look like a trace of golden color or anything left over after gilding, silver plate layer is on top." It means that the badge consists of two parts/metals?: the central part of white metal, while the rest of yellow. But it isn't logical(for this order) and there are no traces of fastening of these parts. After all it is necessary to see an order carefully alive. Or I did not understand something ?
paja Posted August 4, 2016 Author Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) The order looked like that to me, that's why I ended first post about it with question "How is this possible?" The first thing that was confusing me is the fact that there was a lot of dirt on the order and after I thoroughly cleaned it those yellowish parts appeared, so they could not be that easily removed. I have no idea what could that be, they were covering too much of order to be a factory flaw, I doubt that someone painted the order and that can't be patina, but who knows I was wrong once, maybe I'm wrong again. Second thing, when you look at that last photo I've posted it looks like silver plate is on yellowish base not the other way around. Anyway this was bothering me so much that I tried cleaning it again but nothing happened. After that I tried mechanically removing it and it finally came off. I hate doing any kind of interventions but like you said it just wasn't logical so I had to know. In the end one thing is certain, the order is made out of some white metal, it remains to be seen if it's silver. Edited August 4, 2016 by paja
BalkanCollector Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 My humble contribution...3rd and 2nd class.
BalkanCollector Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Very strange Order of Labour. Unfortunately I couldn't save the photos so here's the link. https://www.aukcije.hr/prodaja/Kolekcionarstvo/Militarija/Ordeni-i-medalje/Jugoslavija/1362/oglas/Orden-rada-II-reda-FNRJ-model/3113687/
paja Posted September 18, 2017 Author Posted September 18, 2017 I've seen orders like that before, there's a couple of them in Sammler's base, but I really don't know what's the deal there. Considering that that's a needle variant I think it's safe to conclude it can't be some kind of prototype, unadopted solution or something like that. Factory mistake? Here's one more, it seems like only the central part is gilded. It got sold some time ago, I still regret not buying it.
BalkanCollector Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Interesting, thanks for the info!
paja Posted September 18, 2017 Author Posted September 18, 2017 And thank you for the link. I'll upload photos, that way we'll still have them once the ad gets deleted.
BalkanCollector Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Thank you for uploading them. I don't know why I couldn't save the photos so I couldn't do it myself. I've tried saving them again today and now it's working...
Eric Gaumann Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) I think this is the best thread for an Order of Labor 1st Class. Even though it's titled 3rd class I see some 2c as well so. Here's a tease. Just received this less than 2 hours ago and I have to share. More details coming soon. edit: Another thread with some 1st Class images: This current thread is much more recent so I think I will continue posting here unless someone objects. Edited November 1, 2018 by Eric Gaumann update
Eric Gaumann Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 So here are some more, detailed images of this beautiful Order. Starting with the box. It has a vertical slit in it to accommodate the pin-back, not the original double screwpost that I think this order originally was (more on that later.)
Eric Gaumann Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 Now to the Order itself. It's got a massive chip, obviously, in the enamel of the flag on the obverse. It looks worse in person but I like "salty" so I'll live with it. My scale is on the fritz again but I've seen 60+ grams for this order. Serial numbered and hallmarked for content. I believe this single square hallmark denotes 950 silver content? I believe the original, T1V1 version of this Order had two screwposts, at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock, as attachments to the uniform. This has been modified to a pin-back attachment, I assume by ZIN despite it's almost home-made look. And finally two, poor quality side images. My guess is that this is a three part design with the center medallion, of just the two heads, either soldered or riveted to the circular white enameled piece, which is then riveted to the wreath/enameled red flag base. Having trouble uploading these last two images. Will try again tomorrow.
BalkanCollector Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 Very nice addition Eric! I also like it's chipped enamel for some reason. Also the square silver hallmark is indeed a hallmark for .950 silver.
Eric Gaumann Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) Let's try the side shots again. I may replace these with better images once the morning sun reaches my work bench. edit: replaced images Edited November 2, 2018 by Eric Gaumann better image
BalkanCollector Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 Thank you for additional photos Eric! I love the layering and sort of a build up of this order. Kinda reminds me of an Order for Military Merits.
Eric Gaumann Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 What is the weird little finger of the hand holding the flower on these Orders? Every time I see an image of these awards my eyes go to that finger. So weird. IMHO
BalkanCollector Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Eric Gaumann said: What is the weird little finger of the hand holding the flower on these Orders? Every time I see an image of these awards my eyes go to that finger. So weird. IMHO I don't know if that finger is supposed to point out the femininity of the hand but it does look rather strange.
Eric Gaumann Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 I just got this Order today. Fills in my Labor Order list although I still need a Labor Medal (if anyone has a lead on that common medal please let me know. Anyway... This came with a box and it's award document so I'm very happy. The images were taken at night under electric light so they're not that good. I'll do daylight images if anybody cares. Here we go. Starting with the box. And here is the doc, and the award itself. The document is dated 1976, and the pin is marked 'ZIN'. Two more images; one of the obverse and one of the reverse.
Eric Gaumann Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 OK. Here are some more images: 01) is last night. 1) is this morning in natural light, before cleaning. 3) is this morning in natural light, after a light wash in warm water and dish soap.
BalkanCollector Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 Nice addition! This one was awarded to a Lt.Colonel of the financial branch of service. 1
Eric Gaumann Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 4 hours ago, BalkanCollector said: Nice addition! This one was awarded to a Lt.Colonel of the financial branch of service. Thanks mate! Financial branch, eh? Now that's sexy. ? ?
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