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    Dear Gents

    I knew than many uboat men,etc did use to wear unofficial symbol or insignias on their bordmütze but I suppose is more strange see those symbol on tellermütze and so i would like any info if any from you know about Km sailors could wear any Unofficial insignia or symbol added on their tellermütze as I have seen these days on pics and any tellermütze with it,I have seen Narvik Edelweiss,etc and if you have any period pic with where we could see any strange symbol please happy to see it.

    thanks for your comments









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    the emblem with anchor and key on the Regatta cap is the cap emblem of the North German Lloyd (Norddeutscher Lloyd or NDL). The anchor obviously for the shipping aspect, the key is the key to the gates of the city of Bremen, where the NDL headquater was located. This indicates to me, that in civil life the guy was an employee of this shipping line like so many other seamen that then served in the Kriegsmarine.


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    Note: see # ID 118 of the next topic

    To my knowledge, the NDL badge, as displayed on the Tellermütze cover (unofficialy) was worn by non-Kriegsmarine personnel of the former KdF and NDL ships who were militarized as hospital ships, troop ships, etc. When these ships were employed by the Kriegsmarine, the vast majority of the staff was dressed as KM personnel, but to retain their former status some might have valued to express that by wearing the NDL badge.

    It is interesting to see that the NDL badge was worn in a similar fashion as the (unofficial) U-boat flottilla and other hat badges.

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    4 hours ago, SICHERHEITSDIENTS said:

    Apart NDL badge what do you think about another Unofficial symbol on tellermütze have you ever been and you consider as possible thing for diferents purposal?



    I don't understand your question Fernando.

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    I mean than if in your whole life as km collector anyone from you saw tellermütze and too periods pics from sailors wearing extra or unofficial insignia or symbols added on his Tellermütze as examples I posted.

    I know this was unusual but how rare were them and no under regulations?


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