demir Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Four years ago our friend Auseklis from this Forum indicated that BB&Co of the Turkish War Medal stands for Binder Brüder & Co. from Lüdensheid. This Company was also mentioned amongst the German medal makers. So far non of our friends from the Forum said anything about it. I would be glad to hear your opinions. Also did German Companies used Co. for company and is the German sign for "and" is "&" ? Is it possible for our German friends to get in touch this Company and ask whether they ever produced TWMs. http://www.gebr-binder.de/ Regards Demir Edited September 17, 2017 by demir
ABTOMAT Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Dear Mr. Erman, yes, once there was a discussion about who was the maker behind the marking "B. B. & Co." and the embarrassing guess that it could be the company that is working as "Gebrüder Binder GmbH" today. You asked who has proven it, right? I did! I called the managing director some time ago. I did it just for fun and for falsification of ALL collectors myths, because I knew that it's totally wrong! The company "Gebrüder Binder GmbH" was founded 30 years ago by one of the actual managing directors. This information should be enough. Also: There never was a company named "Gebrüder Binder & Co." in Lüdenscheid. Mr. Erman, you also asked whether the Germans used the letter type of "&" and the abbreviation of "Co." in Company names. Yes, of course we did. We did this for a long time. Mainly and in extreme numbers from 1890 until the 1940s. After WWII the abbreviation of "Co." no longer was a official abbreviation in commercial law for company names here in Germany. If we find it in German company names today, it is only a part of an old companys tradition but not legally any more. "Co." don't mean "Company", it means "Compagnie". It's a Romance element in old German business language. In English it means "cronies", "business partners" or "other business owners". The letter type of "&" has a looooog tradition in German language, especially in commercial communication. In Germany it is even called the "Kaufmanns-Und". For Emperor and Sultan! Sincerely ABTOMAT
ixhs Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) Vom Gewerbeumfang gesehen, ist es die alte Bezeichnung einer GmbH & Co KG. (wenn ich unterstelle, das das eine deutsche Fertigungsstätte war) - die Bezeichnung gab es jedoch auch im Ausland. BB & Co. is an still unknown official manufacturer of EH. Edited January 27, 2018 by ixhs
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