oamotme Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Gentlemen, I have had for some years one of these medals in bronze/copper but missing its suspension - see below. Recently I have been offered 'as is' a silver and bronze/copper examples of the medals complete with suspension. I am well aware that over the years a number of the Bahawalpur series of medals have been copied or reproduced. To be fair to vendor, with whom I have excellent dealings over many years, he has stated the pair are 'as is' and he makes no claim as to their status. Perhaps one of you may have a view? My 'gut feel' is that the pair have a more recent past. Kind regards, Owain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I am guilty of the sin of envy Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oamotme Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) Paul, Great to see you back on line. What do you think? Are the one with suspension original? They look different to my 'without' suspension piece - mine has higher definition - e.g. moustache and epaulettes. I think they are copies??? Owain Edited March 30, 2018 by oamotme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Owain, These may well be copies---original details [hair, necklaces, awards] look more like your post 1 example in my experience. Do these offerings have a swivel suspension? Of the handful I've handled, most have swivel suspensions, well defined 'claws' and thin circumference rims. Compare with https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/baldwins/catalogue-id-srbal10013/lot-65390621-7009-49d7-a50b-a441017750b3 or http://www.royalark.net/Pakistan/bahawal9.htm. An example in the Bahawal Museum in 1987 had what appeared to be a 1911 Delhi Durbar medal type swivel suspension, however. Still if the price is right these might be useful as fillers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oamotme Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 Thanks for the Saleroom link - this example - see below (copyright Baldwins), and indeed the 'royalark' example - see below (copyright royalark), are like my suspensionless example. A visible difference is the tail on the Q of Sadiq on the reverse upper inscription - it extends both ways on the 'original' and the lower inscription Sadiq Q has a longer tail on the 'original'. Yes, the pair on offer would be nice as fillers but the price of $100 and $600 respectively does not make them a sensible purchase. Owain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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