Rattle Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 A friend of mine has this badge in his collection.What for is it. I know it is hungarian, but what else ?Regards,Stephan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 That is the "Vit?z" badge created on 10 August 1920 by the Horthy regime.It bestowed the hereditary title of "Vit?z" (the same as a German "Ritter von") on holders of high bravery decorations such as the Gold Bravery Medal and so on. I believe it was an ADDITIONAL honor for a minority of super heroic deeds and was not automatically given with X.Y.Z awards. I also don't think it was given WITHOUT having received a bravery decoration.It could be given to all ranks, making even enlisted men "knights."Members were enrolled on a "Roll of the Brave," presented with land that was tied in hereditary entail to the oldest son-- and the oldest son of the oldest son... was intended to inherit this title. It came with a huge, ornate certificate that served as a patent of nobility.In 1943 there had been 14,088 members approved, and 6,622 were awaiting processing, according to the late Dr. K-G Klietmann (1966).THIS badge appears to be painted, so I am not sure if it is a late-WW2 one or a copy. It would not surprise me if these were being faked, given how significant they were. The very few I have sen were VERY well enamelled, but could have been 1920s pieces for WW1 bravery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattle Posted April 9, 2006 Author Share Posted April 9, 2006 Thanks for your fast reply.Here is the back of the badge, maybe you can judge better about it seeing the backside.Regards,Stephan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 I can't, but I hope somebody who knows Hungarian awards will be able to help. The couple that I have seen had big metal "popsicle stick" slides like on the back of British cap badges-- I think these were usually slipped through the chest pocket button of a uniform. Of course, that wouldn't work very well on civilian clothes, so maybe there were two styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 These are still given out today. I have a friend who lives in Charleston, SC who received the Vitez a few years back. I'm not exactly sure how he got it, but it was awarded to him from Hungary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djedj Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 You'll find everything you want to know about the Vitez order on Erik's great website :http://www.vitez.6x.to/Enjoy the browing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 So, did your friend get some land in the bestowal?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) So, did your friend get some land in the bestowal?? As far as I know, no, but I really have no idea how it came about, except that I've been to a formal event where I've seen him, and at least one other person present, wearing the Vitez badge. The other person was European. Edited April 10, 2006 by Mike Dwyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Gents,The Vitezi was reinstitued by an act passed in Hungary in 1993. This act specifically listed previous awards which were no longer to be worn and the reinstitution of some Hungarian awards forbidden by previous regimes. This act also abolished privileges which had previously been attached to the reinstitued awards. Therefore, no land would have been awarded with the Vitezi awarded subsequently. I asume this also applies to the hereditary nature of the award but I am not certain of this.Regards,Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 see also:http://www.vitezi-rend.hu/peter Czink, who I am begging to join us here can tell us more about joining the Order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Our own Club member "hunyadi" has posted some info & pictures of originals in his collection on this very website Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I'm a little slow t getting around to this section. Yes - this is exacty a new issue - they can be bought fairly easily - so the lustre of the title is a bit lost on these. Most of these that I have seen come with a clutch back pin system and pale in comparision to the WW2 ear ones - they were awarded into 1948 BTW. However by (as memor serves right) 1942-3 the priveledge of land had been used up and was no longer available to new recipients (who by that time were getting the award for battlefield merits in WW2) As for the hereditary nature of the award it still is passed on to the oldest son and apparently those who would have been bestowed the title by being the oldest son - yet were denied the title by the 1949-89 period can apply to have the titile awarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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