Alex K Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Cant confirm specifically but i would assume (for the royals at least) around about the time George v, renounced his german heritage and made other royals give up all their german titles, changed the dynastic name from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha to Windsor, some time around 1917, Britain was at the time at war with Germany! A good survival tactic, me thinks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filfoster Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 I think this is a fair guess but I have seen earlier examples, e.g. Viscount Wolseley: ...and Lord Roberts: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 @filfoster When you say 'court mounting', are you referring to just wearing the decorations from straight ribbons, or do you actually mean the mounting method where the gongs are resting (and fixed) on a piece of the straight ribbon? I believe the latter is what is defined as 'court mounting'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filfoster Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 "...just wearing the decorations from straight ribbons, or do you actually mean the mounting method where the gongs are resting (and fixed) on a piece of the straight ribbon?" The major feature is the straight ribbon, vice the German method of a folded ribbon. Whether the medals are fixed or not, isn't the feature I am concentrating on. I suppose the field marshals' portraits (Wolseley and Roberts) show fixed medals on straight ribbons. I had not previously noticed that Edward VII's medals were not 'court mounted' (straight ribbons) but instead, on folded, Prussian style mounting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex K Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 12 hours ago, filfoster said: "...just wearing the decorations from straight ribbons, or do you actually mean the mounting method where the gongs are resting (and fixed) on a piece of the straight ribbon?" The major feature is the straight ribbon, vice the German method of a folded ribbon. Whether the medals are fixed or not, isn't the feature I am concentrating on. I suppose the field marshals' portraits (Wolseley and Roberts) show fixed medals on straight ribbons. I had not previously noticed that Edward VII's medals were not 'court mounted' (straight ribbons) but instead, on folded, Prussian style mounting. Once again, the folded german style was predominantly used by the royals based on their german ancestry, typically british decorations were worn on straight ribbons as evidenced by many images inckuding during queen Victoria's reign Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filfoster Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 OK, based on the above, here's my recreation of Edward VII's bar. There are several originals (I prefer copies but some are not extant); some are improvised, but they're all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filfoster Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 Does anyone have a source for the ribbon for the last medal, the 'Geneva Cross'? What I have is original and it's rather dirty. I'd swap it out if I could find the ribbon. Please let me know if you have a source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimn Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Congratulations on a nice job on Eddie's medal bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filfoster Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 16/11/2021 at 03:37, jimn said: Congratulations on a nice job on Eddie's medal bar. jimn: Thank you! It's a lot of stuff to crowd onto a small space. I'd guess his were perhaps smaller medals to allow for that, maybe not. It was interesting to source many of them and I was lucky to only have to buy three originals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimn Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I think at times both Eddie and George V worn smaller sized Breast stars...I wonder if there is some sort of British Prinzen size awards especially for Royalty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filfoster Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Don't know but it would make sense. I hope someone can respond to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 An impressive result. Congratulations. I have only one objection... his Dannebrog cross should be the Silver Merit Cross (all silver, no enamel). Awarded as an 'add-on' to his Grand Commander class It was awarded in 1864, so would be the Christian IX type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 As reference, this is what he would be wearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filfoster Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) Can someone find a good copy? I have my only original on my Nicholas II bar. Edited November 23, 2021 by filfoster addition: Sometimes these medal bar projects require the compromise of what's available versus what's perfect. I'm always willing to upgrade/switchout better medals when I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filfoster Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 ...and I make judgements about when it's reasonable to invest in a real medal if a copy is not available. For example, the last two medals on the Edward bar or several of the early medals on my Kaiser Wilhelm I bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Unfortunately I don't know of any copies of the Dannebrog Silver Merit Cross... A real one will set you back $5-600 if you can find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filfoster Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Great Dane said: Unfortunately I don't know of any copies of the Dannebrog Silver Merit Cross... A real one will set you back $5-600 if you can find one. Yes. I bought the one I have many years ago when they were cheaper. Maybe someday someone will make a decent copy. It's on Tsar Nicholas II's bar as well, so may be worth the effort for a good repro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filfoster Posted July 10, 2022 Author Share Posted July 10, 2022 ...and here is the whole kit: I also have the sword, sword belt, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimn Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 That looks great......hope to see it on The Crown prequel (if they make one) LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filfoster Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 Thank you! I have actually rented some of my kits out to TV and movie productions. Sadly, my contact, a Yorkshireman named Tim Pickles, a uniform consultant and author, has passed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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