J Temple-West Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Have just received this very early unmarked breast eagle... A very nice example of German craftsmanship, this piece is made of brass and then plated in nickel silver. Metal eagles were worn on the white summer tunic, over the right breast pocket by means of a pin and catch assembly. Knowing that this particular piece belonged to an officer (Stabszahlmeister Gerhard Oelsch Stab 4. Fsch.-Jg. Div.) I would say that it was privately purchased, an option open to the ?Officer Corps?.I was lucky enough to be given some information on the officer as well as some photographs of the grouping that the eagle came from.So, from an ordinary breast eagle, a little help from a friend, we now have a piece with history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J Temple-West Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Stabszahlmeister Gerhard Oelsch.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 A standard issue, 2nd pattern, eagle.. Made by F.W assmann. In Aluminium and marked 'A DRGM'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J Temple-West Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Another private purchase piece.. Maker unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dave B Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Are these eagles always solid backed John?Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Hi Dave,Assmann produced a late, hollow zinc version.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Hi Dave,Assmann produced a late, hollow zinc version..←Hmm,I have one somewhere in my junk drawer that has a broken pin but it has a small prong at the bottom of the badge...just like the Heer examples.I will try and find it and get a scan posted.I think its going to be another fake John Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Here it is John.[attachmentid=2106]Repro??[attachmentid=2107] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 (edited) You never know, Bro'.... let the dog see the rabbit.. Added... you beat me to it...Looks like a cap eagle.. Edited May 16, 2005 by J Temple-West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 (edited) You never know, Bro'.... let the dog see the rabbit.. Added... you beat me to it...Looks like a cap eagle..← ...must be for a big head,the eagle is 8.5cm across!! Edited May 16, 2005 by Dave B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 (edited) I've just had a look at my Heer and KM summer tunic breast eagles and none have that sharp prong.Why would it need to be sharp?...it looks like the prongs on the EK2 bars.Hmmm,me thinks its a repro Dave Edited May 16, 2005 by Dave B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Cap eagles came in various sizes, but you're right..that is a big one.Although unmarked, it looks to be an 'Assmann'.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Cap eagles came in various sizes, but you're right..that is a big one.Although unmarked, it looks to be an 'Assmann'..←Eeek,I wouldn't like to meet the wearer of that badge in a dark alley....he would be huge :speechless-smiley-004: Have you seen a Luftwaffe eagle like this before John?Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 They're normally around 6.5cm on EM caps.. 8.5cm is the size of the breast eagle. Why yours' is so big? perhaps a copy from a breast eagle with prongs applied?I'll do a little research and let you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 They're normally around 6.5cm on EM caps.. 8.5cm is the size of the breast eagle. Why yours' is so big? perhaps a copy from a breast eagle with prongs applied?I'll do a little research and let you know...←Cheers John! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jos Le Conté Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) Hello Gentlemen,Dave,unfortunately your eagle is a copy IMO.I've pics of this particular eagle I'll post soon.I think this copy use to have a very thin needle.I've never seen originals having a prong attached to the swas.Jos. Edited May 17, 2005 by Jos Le Cont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 Hi Jos,Thanks for clearing that up..And a big welcome to the Club.. :food-smiley-004: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jos Le Conté Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 And a big welcome to the Club.. Thanks ! Here's the eagle in question..Jos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jos Le Conté Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 back.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jos Le Conté Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) close-up..Claws show no detail at all..Jos. Edited May 17, 2005 by Jos Le Cont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 close-up..Claws show no detail at all..Jos.←Thanks Jos for clearing that up :food-smiley-004:.....at least the eagle was in my junk drawer and that's where it will stay Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jos Le Conté Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Here's a original hollow zink Assmann Summer eagle..Jos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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