EK 1939 Couple of EK 1 L/12

[Jan Arne S]

Hi Guys !

Here is two EK 1 maker marked L/12 Juncker , Berlin .

Jan Arne

[Jan Arne S]

Back of EK 1 L/12 .

Jan Arne

[Jan Arne S]

Second EK 1 L/12 .

Jan Arne

[Jan Arne S]

Back of EK 1 L/12 .

Jan Arne

[Jan Arne S]

Maker mark on Pin .

Jan Arne

[DavidM]

Hello Jan

Very nice crosses Is the pin on the second cross brass ?

[Marcus H]

Hi Jan Arne,

Are you certain that the second cross is a Juncker ?

Does anyone know the pros and cons with whats what in the L/12 EK1 and EK2 for that matter ? Differences in cores and frames, theory or fact any thought ?

Kr

Marcus

[Bill Garvy]

It appears the maker mark on the first example is under the pin on the reverse side of the cross, whereas for the second example, it is on the reverse of the pin. It also have strong suspicions the second example may, in fact, be an "L/13" Meybauer. . .

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[Jan Arne S]

Hi Guys !

Marcus ! No I`m not really sure that second one is a Juncker EK 1 . That is also the reason I post them both to get comments on the second cross . Not so long ago I also saw a Cross marked "Lazy 2" . And the "2" was marked later on a real unmarked cross . But I payed a normal EK 1 price for the cross , so it`s not any problem if it`s not a Juncker .

Bill ! YUPP ! I also thought about Meybauer when i got larger scans on maker marks , Mark is weak in lower parts and could be a L/13 .

Hope to got more comments to the cross .

Jan Arne

[Mike K]

Hi Jan Arne,

Imo the second cross is definitely L/13 - the lower part of the 3 is simply not formed. Further, that other mark is imo actually a "7" - typically weakly formed on 1939 Meybauer EK1s. I don't think I've seen the double Lieferant/LdO marking on a Meybauer before! Nice one.

Regards

Mike

Edited May 7, 2006 by Mike K

[Jan Arne S]

Hi Mike !

Thanks ! Very good eye !

I should have seen the "7" .

Jan Arne

[Bill Garvy]

I didn't see it either! It's my understanding that most maker marked Meybauer's, i.e. "L/13" or "7", are usually poorly marked. Here's an example of a poorly defined "7". . . (Please note the file marks on the inner corners; this cross appears to have been hand vaulted, and by whom and when remains a mystery. . .)

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Regardless, they are both fine crosses, Jan Arne!

Edited May 12, 2006 by Bill Garvy

[Jan Arne S]

Hi Bill !

Thanks !

I had a choise between 2 EK 1`s , the other was marked only "7" . I have a couple of L/13 marked , but I miss a "7" marked EK 1 , so I was not sure who I should grab . But I fell down on the second one showed here . And even if it not was a "L/12" , it sems to be a good choise !

Jan Arne

Edited May 8, 2006 by Jan Arne S

[Marcus H]

Jan Arne my friend,

I think I'd rather the double marked one than an L/12 at the end of the day

[Nan Su]

I agree, Imo the second cross is L/13

The pin is a typical Paul Meybauer, with the 'corner bend'.

My L/13,The same good example

[Nan Su]

Reverse..

Edited May 9, 2006 by Nan Su

[Nan Su]

maker mark on the pin

[jcwater]

what marker?

L/??????

[Marcus H]

JC,

It may help the guys to assess the cross maker if you produce pic's of the cross too.

Kr

Marcus