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    Pre-WW1, 6 place medal bar, Please help!


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    Gentlemen,

     

    Attached is a snippet of an image (taken sometime before 1905) , featuring a gentleman wearing a 6 place medal bar. This gentleman was born in Prussia, in 1840, if that is of any help. 

    I have tried my best to decipher his bar, and I believe I have figured out many of them, but I would appreciate some help, as some I am clueless on some!

    What I think it might be:

    1~D?ppel cross?

    2~Alsen cross?

    3~1870-71 medal?

    4~K?niggr?tz cross

    5~Totally clueless on this one, though it could be the 1870-71 medal, but then 3 would be missing!

    6~Kaiser centenary medal

     

    That's all I can come up with.

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    And a close-up of the bar:

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    Thank you,

     

    Philip.S

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    dedehansen,

     

    Many thanks, I had thought that he was a combatant in the Franco-Prussian war as well, but you prove my theory wrong! 

    thank you for the information, It is greatly appreciated, Would it be possible to figure out which branch he was in? As he is in civilian dress, I have no idea!

     

    Thank you :beer:!

     

    Philip.S

     

     

     

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    1 hour ago, dedehansen said:

    No. 5 Landwehrdienstauszeichnung

     

    The Landwehrdienstauszeichnung was not introduced before 1913 as a (round) medal in order to replace the 1842 model badge.

     

    45 minutes ago, Philip.S said:

    I had thought that he was a combatant in the Franco-Prussian war as well, but you prove my theory wrong! 

     

    Since the picture was taken before 1905 this should indeed be the KDM 1870/71.

     

    The correct order would be:

     

    1. Düppelkreuz
    2. Alsenkreuz
    3. Kriegsdenkmünze von 1870/71
    4. Erinnerungskreuz von 1866
    5. Kriegsdenkmünze für 1864

    6. Centenarmedaille

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    Andreas,

     

    Interesting idea, but no, just family.

    There are 2 other military men, only one is with his medals on this image (a 1870-71, and kaiser commemorative medal, attached)

     

    I'm afraid I have minimal information on them.

     

    Many thanks

     

    Philip.S

    20 minutes ago, dedehansen said:

    Are there school boys on the photo?

     

    If so, he could have been a school servant (Schuldiener).

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    saxcob,

     

    many thanks for your information as well!

    10 minutes ago, saxcob said:

    1. Düppelkreuz
    2. Alsenkreuz
    3. Kriegsdenkmünze von 1870/71
    4. Erinnerungskreuz von 1866
    5. Kriegsdenkmünze für 1864

    6. Centenarmedaille

    To my knowledge, the ribbons on both the Alsen, and D?ppel crosses are wrong, no?

    Somewhere, I have another image of the same gentleman, but with only 5 medals, although that image was taken in 1905, or just a bit later, but in significantly worse quality, which also features a gentleman who is also on the above photo (without medals), but this time with a hefty bar! perhaps just too lazy to wear it for the photo then!

     

    Regards,

     

    Philip.S

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