Yugoslavia - Order of National Merit number #38

[USSR]

Hi all,

 

I came across this piece as part of a grouping I purchased. I'm not very familiar with Yugoslavian awards, but I understand these are generally quite common. However, this one is riveted and has a low number. Can anyone help me identify it?

 

Also, I read a post here that said Yugoslavian awards are not researchable, but the post is a few years old. Does anyone know if the archives have been opened since 2021?

 

Thank you all in advance!

 

Matt

[Kallarati Heroik]

Number 38 ? I think with that number must be very expensive.

 

It is solid silver and early production.

 

Nice catch.

[USSR]

Thanks! Any information about the year and until what number range did they use rivets?

[BalkanCollector]

Great piece! It's the lowest numbered second class of this order I've seen so far.

 

The highest numbered order with three rivets I've seen is #989 and the lowest withouth rivets #1,310.

 

When it comes to the archives, it's still not possible to research Yugoslav awards by their number, at least not to my knowledge.

 

On 12/12/2024 at 20:28, USSR said:

I came across this piece as part of a grouping I purchased.

 

Was it part of the grouping to one recipient or some sort of a mix of awards you bought?

[Wat05]

Such a beautiful example! I hope that if any archive does exist, it will be released. I would love to learn about who received this particular order!

[USSR]

11 hours ago, BalkanCollector said:

Great piece! It's the lowest numbered second class of this order I've seen so far.

 

The highest numbered order with three rivets I've seen is #989 and the lowest withouth rivets #1,310.

 

When it comes to the archives, it's still not possible to research Yugoslav awards by their number, at least not to my knowledge.

 

 

Was it part of the grouping to one recipient or some sort of a mix of awards you bought?

Thanks! It was in a lot of Soviet awards but this one ended up there too for whatever reason. Maybe the auctioneer thought it was Russian/Soviet because of the Cyrillic lettering on the nut. 

[BalkanCollector]

9 hours ago, USSR said:

Thanks! It was in a lot of Soviet awards but this one ended up there too for whatever reason. Maybe the auctioneer thought it was Russian/Soviet because of the Cyrillic lettering on the nut. 

 

Soviets received Yugoslav orders for war merits so it's not impossible that the recipient of this particular order was Soviet.

[El Ninja]

Many Soviets were awarded yugoslavian orders and medals, but after the 1948 Tito-Stalin split, many were returned or destroyed.

Notable case is the Panchevo bridge medal, which was awarded mostly to Soviets, and today is extremely rare.

Same thing happened in Albania, Enver Hoxha returned all of his yugoslavian awards to Tito.

Edit:

Highest known number for this type of the Order of merit to the people is 2834.

Lovest known for the second type is 2155.

Production of types was most likely concurrent.

Edited December 15, 2024 by El Ninja

[BalkanCollector]

23 hours ago, El Ninja said:

Highest known number for this type of the Order of merit to the people is 2834.

Lovest known for the second type is 2155.

 

Do you have pictures of those orders?

[El Ninja]

Sadly, no. Those numbers are quited in a book. Although, I would have to dig through the archive and books. They might be somewhere. 

[Kallarati Heroik]

On 15/12/2024 at 18:34, El Ninja said:

Many Soviets were awarded yugoslavian orders and medals, but after the 1948 Tito-Stalin split, many were returned or destroyed.

Notable case is the Panchevo bridge medal, which was awarded mostly to Soviets, and today is extremely rare.

Same thing happened in Albania, Enver Hoxha returned all of his yugoslavian awards to Tito.

Edit:

Highest known number for this type of the Order of merit to the people is 2834.

Lovest known for the second type is 2155.

Production of types was most likely concurrent.

Yes, Enver Hoxha sent back all yugo decaorations.

 

The same did also with Soviets, sent back his SUVOROV order.

[eatmeat]

As for II. class 1st model (3 rivets model) the lowest i have seen is 554 and the highest is 1097. This was awarded directly in the weeks/months after the war. After the 3 rivets model comes ZIN model, where number 1310 was awarded on 18.2.1946. In general the lower the number the earlier it was awarded. But this is not always true as i seen papers for numbers 2588 awarded on 12.1.1946.

Whan the orders were made each republic or military corps/division/army got a parcel of orders and they were giving them to the soldiers, so you can have a mixture of numbers and dates.

 

The higest numebr of the II. class i have seen is 49454 (with screw) but remade into a needle version i have seen 58325.