Jacques Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Steinhauer & L?ck is one of the few firm which manufactured and provided spanish crosses from 1939 to 1945. They used several MM during the war period.Generally S&L crosses are recognising by the swords grip form, hinge & pin's forms, and eagles details.Here are few samples of crosses from this manufacturer with the mark "4". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 reverse: the MM "4" is incused within a squareTo be noted, the flat pin, the EK1 type Hinge, the swords grip edges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 Here is a spanish cross in silver w/o sword already presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 ReverseTo be noted, the same details as the previous bronze cross. S&L used a different die for the cross w/o swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 here is what I think a late variant. Obverse: the eagles have the same form except the swastika which is plain (no cut out branches).Reverse: the pin's form changed thus the hinge (barrel type). the hook is thin and open to left side.the MM "4" still remains on the pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 Another sample of a "late war" S&L cross. this one is a silver w/o cross. the plain swastica is more visible, thus the die used (not cut swords). same hinge, pin & hook as the previous bronze cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Jacques - great crosses an photos of each. Had you not said otherwise, I would have walked by that last one thinking is was a repro: poor finish, Floch-looking pin, and one eagle poorly placed. Thanks for the education!Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted May 27, 2006 Author Share Posted May 27, 2006 Jacques - great crosses an photos of each. Had you not said otherwise, I would have walked by that last one thinking is was a repro: poor finish, Floch-looking pin, and one eagle poorly placed. Thanks for the education!ScottThis latest is not of the best quality, this is why I think it is more post 1943 (I can't really dated it) than early manufacture. I didn't have it in hand but I suppose it in Tombac, the silver colour mostly disappeared. Here is a gold one, directly from the family obtained. it is unmarked but retains the S&L characteristics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted May 27, 2006 Author Share Posted May 27, 2006 reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Beautiful awards. If I ever get tired of PABs I know what I will collect next. Thanks for showing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted May 27, 2006 Author Share Posted May 27, 2006 Beautiful awards. If I ever get tired of PABs I know what I will collect next. Thanks for showing them.Don't be too hurry .... Keep busy with the PAB's, there are so many variants to collect, then jump onto the numbered badges if it is not already done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Don't be too hurry .... Keep busy with the PAB's, there are so many variants to collect, then jump onto the numbered badges if it is not already done.One could almost get the impression that you don't want me to collect these...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted May 27, 2006 Author Share Posted May 27, 2006 One could almost get the impression that you don't want me to collect these...... Lol...I already transmitted the virus to Sal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Lol...I already transmitted the virus to Sal....Don you might be right about your hunch,... I think poor Jacques has suffered terribly since I became a LC addict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 (edited) I may have missed the answer in my forum search, but did S&L ever mark their Spanish Crosses "L/16"? The hardware on the back doesn't look anything like those pictured above.Scott Edited February 10, 2007 by Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 Indeed, this maker also used the following marks: L/16, L/16 4, L/16 800.I suggest you to open another thread with this marks.jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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