Jacques Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 I would like to share with all of you what are in my opinion the best spanish crosses.MEYBAUER of Berlin made spanish crosses all along the war. these crosses are of high quality, very finelly detailed. this firm used several MM. I have encountered the following ones: "900", "900 + coat of arms", "coat of arms", L/13. Some crosses ae unmarked but the details are those of this firm. to my knowledge, MEYBAUER never used the LDO nbr "7" on its crosses.the crosses were manufactured in bronze, tombac, massive silver. Eagles: they are sharp detailed. the swas are square and show 2 cut out branchesSwords: the grips have 7 twists. they are thin.Pin: generally the pins are massives and large at the top. it is typical on the L/13 variant.Hook: two variants exist. the hook for the "L/13" is round. For the other crosses it is of a half-moon section, always directly soldered to the cross.Here are presented 3 crosses: Top: L/13Bottom left: 900Bottom right: 900 + coat of armsjacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted May 28, 2005 Author Share Posted May 28, 2005 (edited) The reverse showing the details of the pin , the form of the grips and the hook. Edited May 28, 2005 by jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted May 28, 2005 Author Share Posted May 28, 2005 And last one showing the marks . :food-smiley-004: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted May 31, 2005 Author Share Posted May 31, 2005 3 maker's marks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francisco v. Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 I think Meybauer never die struck SK withow swords. Cut off them on request.Two examples I saw (both with coat of arms marking) were of this wayRegardsFran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted June 21, 2006 Author Share Posted June 21, 2006 Hi Fran,I have the same conclusion as you. All the Meybauer crosses w/o sword I saw clearly shown cut swords. So whatever the MM, coat of arms or L/13, Meybauer only used swords die and them cut the swords.Nevertheless, collectors have to be cautious with such silver crosses with cut swords; it is not so hard to do that for an unscrupulous dealer IOT increase the price.jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted June 24, 2006 Author Share Posted June 24, 2006 here is a better pic of the coat of arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-SPAIN Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I would like to know if this model of SK with "900 + coat of arms" was made in the gold version.Regards. Eduardo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Hi,I just have one in my files. So , it seems that the answer is "yes".jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-SPAIN Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Thanks!!Hi,I just have one in my files. So , it seems that the answer is "yes".jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaW Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Hello,what do you think about this spanish cross?regardsMichael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaW Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I believe that one to be a fake, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 Hi,I would like to have it in hands, but on the pics, I don't like the eagles design and reverse of the swords.jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 (edited) Jacques, the disc is bad too, if this is real I will eat my hat! Look at the wierd catch too. Edited August 18, 2006 by Sal Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 Yes Sal, you're right, and the pebbling doesn't match too. The swords look too thin.Michael, you might get your money back.jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Here's another Meybauer from my files, this time without swords.Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 23, 2006 Author Share Posted August 23, 2006 Here's another Meybauer from my files, this time without swords.StanI like this one with 900 and coat of arms.Are these crosses all from your collection, Stan ?This one needs a good cleaning,isn't it Sal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 yep! A quick dip and that baby would shine!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Jacques,The first unmarked Spanish Cross without Swords is in my collection, the Meybauer was one which was offered to me a couple of years ago but I didn't buy.Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectre Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Hi all,Here is my silver Meybauer I got at the first of the year. And yes it was cleaned up a little with water and baking soda, it was very dark when I got it. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectre Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 The back and markings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectre Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Sorry for the sacrilege but it was just too nice (and too expensive) to be left looking like this... Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 Hi Spectre,Fine looking text book Meybauer. No sacrilege for me, but other collectors will do think it is. It depends on if you get the cross within a group or alone.The best way is to buy only mint items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loader price Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Hello, I would apreciate if you can give your opinion about this L/13 Spanish Cross. After read the topics posted and some more information I can find some inconsistences related to this one like pin/hook, svastica circle rims, and eagles quality. Kindest regards, Paul Loader http://loaderprice2.blogspot.com.ar/2014/08/spanienkreuz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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