Christophe Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 I've tried to find information thoughout the Forum, but am not sure about it... So, I ask the experts of the Forum, who will have the right answer, I'm sure. I'm totally novice with mongolian awards... This Mongolian doc has been awarded to General-Major Giel (DDR). It is part of a splitted group. The doc is without the medal / order, so I really don't know what it is relating to.What is this document ?Many thanks in advance.Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted March 11, 2007 Author Share Posted March 11, 2007 Inside of the document.Award # 23262.Many thanks for your help.Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 (edited) Christophe, isn't there one more inside page following this one?Jan Edited March 11, 2007 by Vatjan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted March 11, 2007 Author Share Posted March 11, 2007 Hi Jan,Yes there seem to be other pages. But these pics are the only two I have.Do you think it is not possible to ID this document only with the pics I have posted ? If yes, I will have to wait for the doc to arrive...Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 The doc is definitely for the medal, not for order.William Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted March 11, 2007 Author Share Posted March 11, 2007 Thanks William.But, I'm afraid it is difficult to tell which medal without seeing the other pages... And the number is the one of teh doc, not the one of the medal... Am I correct ?Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 It is a standard, normal, award document. Award section not shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted March 11, 2007 Author Share Posted March 11, 2007 OK. Thansk for taking time, Ed.I will keep you informed of the nature of this document, when I have received it.Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 OK. Thansk for taking time, Ed.I will keep you informed of the nature of this document, when I have received it.Cheers.Ch.It could be really interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted March 11, 2007 Author Share Posted March 11, 2007 I hope... Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 (edited) What medal/order it is, its number and award date are written on the following double page.Judging from the number on page 1, I would guess it is a 1980's honorary labour medal.Jan Edited March 11, 2007 by Vatjan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted March 11, 2007 Author Share Posted March 11, 2007 Jan,It has been awarded to General G?nter Giel, Chief of the VP and Deputy Minister of the Interior (DDR). Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Hahaha, that will teach me trying to read the post diagonnally when I have little time, and then making bold statements Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.I say we wait for the doc and check the inside doublespread, before I embarrass myself againBest regardsJan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Oh what the heck, let's start a Mongolian award quiz So on second thought and after more thorough consideration I'd say a Polar Star Order, awarded around 1983.Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Jan,It has been awarded to General G?nter Giel, Chief of the VP and Deputy Minister of the Interior (DDR). Cheers.Ch.Christophe,when you receive Gen Giel's group - please post scans of other pages.William Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 William,Will do it for sure... So that the mystery ends... Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 Oh what the heck, let's start a Mongolian award quiz So on second thought and after more thorough consideration I'd say a Polar Star Order, awarded around 1983.JanJan, Excellent!!!! I believe it is an Order of Polar Star, SN 23262, awarded on 17 June 1982.It should be, according to the classification a : (A 33.3/M 12.4) -- Type 4.1 (Pinback, silver); Low = 15074, High = 30409; 1970-2003Am I right? Could you confirm?And, what's the meaning of the n? 147, in the far right column of the doc ?Now, just have to try to put hand on this Order, as I have only the doc... I know, it will be along shot... Thanks to all for your help.Cheers.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Jan, Excellent!!!! I believe it is an Order of Polar Star, SN 23262, awarded on 17 June 1982.It should be, according to the classification a : (A 33.3/M 12.4) -- Type 4.1 (Pinback, silver); Low = 15074, High = 30409; 1970-2003Am I right? Could you confirm?And, what's the meaning of the n? 147, in the far right column of the doc ?Now, just have to try to put hand on this Order, as I have only the doc... I know, it will be along shot... Thanks to all for your help.Cheers.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR CollectionYes, correct, OPS silver pinback. 147 is the number of the decree by which the order was awarded.Nice doc, good luck finding the order itself CheersJan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Jan beat me to it. Now, it would be interesting to see what sort of formal visit took place on 17 Junr 1982.Nice 'un! Welcome to the marvelous world of Mongolia!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 (...)Nice doc, good luck finding the order itself CheersJanI know, I know.... Thanks, and bravo for your estimate (type of order + date).Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 (edited) Jan beat me to it. Now, it would be interesting to see what sort of formal visit took place on 17 Junr 1982.Nice 'un! Welcome to the marvelous world of Mongolia!!I'll try to know more about this visit... Cheers.Ch. Edited April 11, 2007 by Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I know, I know.... Thanks, and bravo for your estimate (type of order + date).Cheers.Ch.I would start with major dealer web sites, then check serial numbers list here on GMIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 I would start with major dealer web sites, then check serial numbers list here on GMIC.And post some Wanted ads, here and there... Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Most importantly will be to send out the plea here. Though I suspect his is (was ) in DDR. Fate unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 Most importantly will be to send out the plea here. Though I suspect his is (was ) in DDR. Fate unknown.I'll certainly do it. But, according to Giel's widow, it makes a while this order has been "lost" . And, apparently lost in DDR... I'll put some of my contacts in Berlin on the case.Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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