New Kid Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 (edited) Hello allwhich insignias may have an officer candidate on his tunic ? Is it : standard oberfeldwebel collar tabs but officer silver piping around the collar instead of NCO's tresse ? What about the shoulder boards ?Have you some good pics to show ? Period or today's items ?Thanks a lot Edited January 30, 2009 by New Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 (edited) Offiziersanw?rter ranks WehrmachtFahnenjunker = usually Unteroffizier shoulder boards with Doppel-TresseF?hnrich = Feldwebel shoulder boards with Doppel-TresseOberf?hnrich = Oberfeldwebel shoulder boards with Doppel-Tresse and NCO collar tabs and after exam Oberf?hnriche were allowed to wear the officers collar tabs with Oberfeldwebel shoulder boards.Oberf?hnrich Panzergrenadier 1943 Edited January 30, 2009 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul R Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Hello allwhich insignias may have an officer candidate on his tunic ? Is it : standard oberfeldwebel collar tabs but officer silver piping around the collar instead of NCO's tresse ? What about the shoulder boards ?Have you some good pics to show ? Period or today's items ?Thanks a lotHello...That is correct. The LW is a little different than the Heer in this regard. The LW Officer Candidate did use the NCO uniform except that instead of the NCO collar tresse, the officer style silver cord is sewn to the outer collar. The Shoulder straps are the same as the NCO's except for the extra strip of tress(or cord) around the base of the strap. I will see if there are some pics I can post. The officer's head gear was authorized.RegardsPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) Hello...That is correct. The LW is a little different than the Heer in this regard. The LW Officer Candidate did use the NCO uniform except that instead of the NCO collar tresse, the officer style silver cord is sewn to the outer collar. The Shoulder straps are the same as the NCO's except for the extra strip of tress(or cord) around the base of the strap. I will see if there are some pics I can post. The officer's head gear was authorized.RegardsPaulHere you go:F?hnrich der Luftwaffe Edited February 1, 2009 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Hello!Interesting tread. All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Kid Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Ok, thanks to you all ! Paul, your pics are welcome ! Naxos, on your photograph the NCO's tresse is still on the collar ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) Ok, thanks to you all ! Paul, your pics are welcome ! Naxos, on your photograph the NCO's tresse is still on the collar ?Yes and the silver piping has been added as well Edited February 1, 2009 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Kid Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Yes and the silver piping has been added as wellThat's interesting ; I've found an other picture (sorry for the very bad scan) :Interestingly his schirmm?tze has a waffenfarbe piping and a silver piping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Oberf?hnrich Ernst Germer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Kid Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Thanks for this picture ; he does not seem to have the extra strip of cord on the shoulder boards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Thanks for this picture ; he does not seem to have the extra strip of cord on the shoulder boardsYes, just like the with the army counter part - once they qualified to wear the officer's style head gear, belt and other accouterment the strap was no longer worn on the NCO board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 You guys beat me to it!Here is another example...It is far sale on the Estand.http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/sho...ad.php?t=325864Naxos, I love that board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Here is another one. This candidate is at a lower level of the OCS process. Notice the EM collar piping and the slide on cord on the shoulder strap. Also, the medical cipher on the shoulder straps was only used by officer candidates.http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...st&p=183792 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Here is another one. This candidate is at a lower level of the OCS process. Notice the EM collar piping and the slide on cord on the shoulder strap. Also, the medical cipher on the shoulder straps was only used by officer candidates.http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...st&p=183792Very nice tunic Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I have permission from the seller of the HG version to use the photos. They belong to Chad. He wanted me to tell everyone that it is available. I wish I had the funds!! This man would have worn the officer visor and side arm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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New Kid Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 Many thanks to you two !Paul, what is the OCS process ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) Here you can find the entire Handbook on German Military Forces, U.S. War Department Technical Manual TM-E 30-451 published in March 1945.http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/tme30/index.htmlYou will find the training of replacement officers at:CHAPTER I. THE GERMAN MILITARY SYSTEM, VI. Conscription; Replacement and Training; 4. Training; d.) The training of Potential Officers Edited February 2, 2009 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Kid Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 Woh, big document ! Very interesting, even if I don't understand all. So, OCS stands for Officer Candidates School, right ?I would like to apply new insignias on my salty four pockets to make it an officer candidate ; would these tabs be historically good (I've hidden the web site to preserve them from competition...) ? If I've understood, they should go with an officer cap since they have not silver cord around them, right ?The tunic, that Paul already knows : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The material and color of the boards should match the tunic - It appears that the boards you posted are of a different material and weave than your tunic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) The boards (Oberfeldwebel) without the Offiziersanw?rter strap are correct for your silver piped (collar) tunic. Edited February 2, 2009 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Kid Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 Yes you're right, the material is a bit different... too badNevertheless, a bit of what appears to be the same material is used in the cuffs, so perhaps it is not annoying :Finally maybe I will only put on officer insignias, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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