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  1. Hi again Mira , Yes the Cross I showed is the 1st Class Liberty Cross from Finland , the second class was very similar but was placed on the breast instead of around the neck. 1st Class was awarded 44 times 1918 but I only have the names of 23 and no Irmer there so far. 2nd class was awarded 271 times and 102 of them to Germans , and 59 to German Navy , I would say that your relative is most probably one of them.I have only 38 names of German officers but no Irmer yet. The Swastika in the Liberty Crossis a very old symbol and since the Order was made in 1918 it was long before the Nazi sign. Christer
  2. There is quite a lot of threads about Germans in Finland 1918 so I thought it would be interesting to give the names a face Here is a small gallery of pictures of German Officers who was participating in the Independence war in Finland Enjoy , Christer !. Gen Maj Wolff 2. OberstLt von Luck Kom 255 Res Inf Rgt 3. Major Schenk zu Schweinsberg Kom 14 Jäger Batl 4. Lt Herfurth , Kürassier Rgt 5. von der Schulenburg-Lieberose Kom 3 Res Jäger Batl
  3. Thank you Heiko and Dave , its amazing what a single photo can lead to I have find out what Finnish awards he got , but thinking of his rank he probably got a Liberty Cross 2nd class or even a first class I will look further and see if I can find anything christer
  4. And here is the book pages ( in Swedish ) Kurt Irmer is mentioned in several places in the text Christer pdf106.pdf pdf107.pdf pdf108.pdf pdf109.pdf pdf110.pdf pdf111.pdf pdf112.pdf pdf113.pdf pdf114.pdf pdf115.pdf pdf116.pdf pdf117.pdf pdf118.pdf
  5. And just before bedtime I found something In the Rangliste of Marine 1914-18 I found his birthdate March 18 1873 , he was promoted to Kapitän zur See August 20th 1917 (if I read this right) and he was retired September 10th 1920
  6. Kurt Irmer wan on SMS Frauenlob in 1908 so he probably moved to another command before 1916 when she was sunk in the Jutland battle. But I could found out that he got the Swedish Sword Order in 1908 , I have not found out why , but probably some Swedish Navy visited Germany or maybe SMS Frauenlob visited Sweden in 1908 .... the search goes on Here is a picture of a Swedish Sword Order
  7. I saw that Kurt Irmer was on SMS Frauenlob , that was a Cruiser launched in 1902 , she was sunk by a torpedo during the Battle of Jutland in 1916 and only 9 men of her crew survived . He was lucky not to be on the ship then... christer
  8. Hi again Mira , Yes today Finland celebrating 100 years as an indenpendent nation starting Dec 6th 1917 I began my interest about Germans in Finland April 1918 with collecting Finnish Orders and Medals and started to build a database over people who got awards , and soon I realized that a lot of German soldiers got Finnish awards . And so it went on In the first days of April 1918 , there was approx 9 500 german soldiers in Finland they had 18 Artillery guns , 10 " Minenwerfer" and 165 machineguns with them. I dont think there is a translated version of the book series but I will scan the chapter about the the transport fleet and hopefully your Swedish friend can translate it. Since I have a interest in the 1918 war I collected quite many books about it written both by Finnish and in some cases by German participants , and I will see if I can find some more info about your grand grand father. Do you have any info about what he did after April 1918 ? The name of the book serie is ( in swedish) " Finlands Frihetskrig , skildrat av deltagare." It was printed in Helsingfors 1922 and it is 8 volumes in all. I´ll be back Christer
  9. Dear Mira , Fantastic ! The book where your grand-grandfather is mentioned is a Finnish book ( written in Swedish) from 1922 its in 8 volumes and named " The War for Liberation of Finland, told by thoose who participated" volume VII is about the German troops in Southern Finland and in chapter 3 written by KorvettenKapitän Bastian is your relative mentioned and the photo. KorvettenKapitän Bastian has a lot of very respectful words to say about your grand grand father Kapitän Irmer was head of the transport Fleet and a key person in the movement of troops to Finland in April 1918. The Transport Fleet was divided into three groups : 1st group : SMS Kolberg Fraktschiff Bahia Castillo Fraktschiff Buenos Aires Fraktschiff Cassel Fraktschiff Frankfurt Dampfer Equity 2nd Group : SMS Nautilus Fraktschiff Schleswig Fraktschiff Chemnitz Fraktschiff Hannover 3rd Group : SMS Möwe Fraktschiff Habsburg Fraktschiff Altenburg Fraktschiff Giessen So it was quite a big fleet of ships Some pictures of the fleet , first on shows some ships in Germany beeing loaded in Neufahrwasser Second one is Bahia Castillo and a truck beeing lifted on the ship. Third one is the ships on the way to Hangö, Finland Picture number four shows some of the Ships in Hangö , April 1918 I will see if I can translate some of the writing about your grand-grand father in the book, he did a great work. MFG Christer Daun
  10. Hi, just want to show my awards from Finland. i don´t have the $$$$$$$ stuff , but still got a collection worth showing I think. I start from the beginning in 1918 My first item is a Commerative medal for participating in the war 1918 , made by Sporrong & Co Stockholm Sweden in about 100 000 pieces given to all that took part in the war , including Germans +12000 and Swedish + 1000. This medal have the bar 2 Karjala Rintama " which means Carelian Front , they could also be awarded with a rose on the ribbon for bravery.
  11. My Finnish Collection 1918-1945

    A couple of new ones to my collection First a 3rd class Liberty Cross 1939 , not one of rarest but still only 1004 awarded so take some time to find one at a good price a medal from 1902 ? next , " The commerative medal of the old Finnish Army" quite rare ( Tiainen rates it as R3 in his book) a little outside my normal area but when I find some unusual Finnish I tend to increase my area Then a mini ( just Love minis ....) a 3rd class Liberty Cross for civilian 1941 only 152 awarded and I suppose less minis ' And two German Ribbon bars from 1918 war , first a Bavarian , could be from GebirgsArt Rgt 2 ? Totally impossible to id of course and the another German with a Baden Zähringen Löwen , also hopeless to id ...
  12. Hi Timo , At least two companies made these medals , Tillander in Finland and Sporrong in Sweden Swedish made was hallmarked and some of the Finnish ones ( LT ) They where awarde until 1937 ! almost 20 year after the war .... christer
  13. My Finnish Collection 1918-1945

    I start to wonder , did this guy buy every order at the kunker auction 2015 ? Now he have at least 10 objects from the Kunker auction out for sale if I see right Christer
  14. My Finnish Collection 1918-1945

    He really sell out a outstanding collection a 1st class 1918 civilian !!! . One strange thing is the bidder with few feedback who bids on all his items, but only to a certain level. And he has 65 bid retractions in 6 months. Maybe the seller have a friend as insurance..... well well , the Finnish Orders seems to have been a Good investment . christer
  15. My Finnish Collection 1918-1945

    Wow ! 1000 $ Thats quite a lot of Dollars Christer
  16. My Finnish Collection 1918-1945

    Wow , he could loose a lot of money if the price dosn´t rise ..... christer
  17. My Finnish Collection 1918-1945

    Hmm, It really looks real by the pictures on EBAY , and I haven´t seen any real good fakes of this class ... But hard to be 100% without holding in real life , and comparing weight and size . But I would vote for genuine , anyone else ? The price is ??? but maybe everyone waiting for a sniper attack ? will be interesting to follow. Christer
  18. My Finnish Collection 1918-1945

    Wow , only 165 left to find Baragin price for the moment ..... christer
  19. What do youn think about this ? Offered for sale now, Zaehringer Loewen Knight first class , sorry for the small pics but can you see anything disturbiing ? Best regards Christer
  20. Here is a new photo to my collection A group of gentlemen from 1866? - 1870 War , I will post a couple of zooms so you can better se the medals ! Regards Christer
  21. Here is my collection of Finnish Minis , I think these are like small pieces of art So much detail and beautiful workmanship . Enjoy ! First is a four with Order of White Rose , medal for bravery 1918 1st class , Prussian Red Cross , Hinderburg Cross. Next a Duo with Order of The Lion and Pro Begnigata Humana ( the last from 1945 given to civilians mostly who helped during the war) Now a four again, with Swedisg Order of North Star in 18K Gold, Order of the White Rose Knight 1st class also in 18K Gold, Liberty Cross 4th class w Red Cross 1941 and PBH (Only 861 LC w Red Cross 1941 was awarded so its quite unusual) Then a single Libert Cross 4th class ( not marked but probably 1941 version) A really scarce one ! A Liberty Cross 3rd Cl w Red Cross 1941 or 1939 ( 48 awarded 1939 and 338 1941 ) And next a single 4th cl w Red Cross A single medal for bravery 1941 1st cl w Red Cross for medics This is almost the Holy Grail of Finnish minis , a 2nd class 1941 for non combat ( only 53 awarded so you dont see these to often ...) And the last one , Liberty Cross for non combat 1918 4th cl, Order of White Rose , EK II , Com medal for 1918 war , HEK ( probably a member of 27th Jaeger Btl 1918) Christer
  22. Finland Minis

    Great chain Tomasz, A soldier that gas been in three wars 1918, 1939 and 1941 Fantastic Quality christer
  23. Finland Minis

    I have been looking of buying one of these , but I thought the price was a little bit high, but now I see the reason You own almost all of them ... , very nice collection ! christer
  24. Finland Minis

    Wow, I Love the Third Clas w Red Cross ! And you seems to have a crush on 1st Clas medal w Red Cross ? christer
  25. Finland Minis

    Waited for a long time to find a 3rd Class Liberty Cross mini, but today it landed in my postbox Beautiful quality on these small crosses Christer