Bob Hunter Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Those are the words Rick Research used to describe this ribbon bar. Can you see why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Claudio Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Well Bob, ribbon bars with a ribbon of the Haus- und Verdienstorden von Herzog Peter Friedrich Ludwig (Oldenburg) and with swords are always extremely rare. The second ribbon could be a RAO with X. Maybe magic Rick already has a name?Ciao,Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 It is the second ribbon bar with ribbon of the Haus- und Verdienstorden von Herzog Peter Friedrich Ludwig of Oldenburg I see after mine. Very nice. Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Yup. All just over 100 WW1 recipients of the Oldenburg House Order X are listed in Neal O'Connor's aviation volume (there were so few he just threw them ALL in), but with wartime only awards and no postwar career, can't ID Bob's guy. Waaaah!!!! I am sure the second ribbon is a WW1 HHOX ithout the usual "and crown" device. It happens sometimes.Christophe's bar, on the other hand, is virtually certain to be a colonial award, with most likely the Prussian Crown Order 4X too. And lest the wicked think all they have to do is jam Xs through a Friedrich August ribbon for us to go all over ... doesn't work that way. Look at these groups-- what's on them, what the other awards are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted September 12, 2005 Author Share Posted September 12, 2005 Well, Christophe, it looks like we've accounted for about 2% of the awards. Anyone else have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Note that Christophe's Bar has silver swords.... I'm thinking RK2wX, not RK1wX. Still pretty rare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Hi,Recently I have read an old Orden und Militaria Magazine (it is the Nr 89). I am particulary esthonished concerning thr Generaloberst Heye's ribbon bar. Indeed he received the Oldenburg knight cross 2nd class with X and crown of the House and Merit Order of Peter Frederick Louis before WW1; but the ribbon bar contain only swords and not crown, why ? I've just want to know if someone has ever seen one ribbon bar with crown and swords for the Oldenburg knight cross 2nd class with X and crown of the House and Merit Order of Peter Frederick Louis RegardsChristophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Have a look of the Generaloberst Heye's medals bar.Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted September 18, 2005 Author Share Posted September 18, 2005 Christophe! That medal bar is magnificent. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 That General Wilhelm Heye was a baaaaaaabe magnet. [attachmentid=11248]I always thought it was his cleverly grown upside down mustache, but now I see they were after his ribbon bar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Out of curiosity, does anyone have any rough numbers for pre-WWI awards?--Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Neal O'Connor's Oldenburg volume gave a rather vague breakdown which by deducting WW1 awards leaves one with a complicated "all embellishments lumped together" sort of pre-WW1 figure dating back to the 19th Century unifocation wars.For colonial campaigns, say a dozen or so Knight 2nds and perhaps 3 or 4 dozen Knights 1st with swords. That's just guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Neal O'Connor's Oldenburg volume gave a rather vague breakdown which by deducting WW1 awards leaves one with a complicated "all embellishments lumped together" sort of pre-WW1 figure dating back to the 19th Century unifocation wars.For colonial campaigns, say a dozen or so Knight 2nds and perhaps 3 or 4 dozen Knights 1st with swords. That's just guessing.←I was thinking more pre-colonial: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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