Stogieman Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Ed, that one's a beauty...... Bob, pretty much every higher Mongolian Badge/Order has those symbols in there somewhere. I believe they are all part of a national shield/crest. I'm sure I/we will be quickly corrected.................. please pardon our inexperience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 (edited) Beautiful and impressive order, Ed Gerd Edited December 20, 2005 by Gerd Becker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 (edited) The crest is indeed the national symbol, as it was used in the early forties.The four animals depicted are of course the four domesticated species the Mongolians keep in their herds:Cows, sheep, goats and camels. I think the symbolism of the horseman speaks fo itself, all I can add is that the stick with the bit of rope the rider is carrying is the Mongolian equivalent of the lasso. It is used to capture wild horses, and still very much in use nowadays.I've got a pic somewhere, but I'm afraid it is a slide, so it might take some time to digitalize. JanPS: Santa must really like you, Ed Edited December 20, 2005 by vatjan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 (edited) My Mongolian Best Herder Badge arrived from Germany of all places today. A most impressive piece of enamel work, only appreciated in hand. There's an earlier style than this that is extremely crude....This one is numbered 3660 Edited January 5, 2006 by stogieman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 My Mongolian Best Herder Badge arrived from Germany of all places today. A most impressive piece of enamel work, only appreciated in hand. There's an earlier style than this that is extremely crude....This one is numbered 3660Very nice Rick, you are hooked Gerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted January 5, 2006 Author Share Posted January 5, 2006 (edited) Hooked, indeed Then this might not be a good time to tell you there are several variations of this badge. Apparantly they were first made of silver, then silvered bronze, then silver again.Serial numbers starting at +-4100 have a flatback instead of a mirror reverse, expect to pay more, because I think only a few hundred of these exist.Also, normally the blue enamel is light blue opaque, but some badges, around the 3500 mark, have this nice translucent darker blue enamel. Yours is a good exemple of these.Congratulations on your nice badge happy hunting for the variations Jan Edited January 5, 2006 by vatjan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuliganRS Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 The early badges are just great!Well designed and executed!Rusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Here's a few more of my Mongolian Badges. I bought them on a whim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Another view! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 GuysAre Mongolian badges being Faked? If so, as much as the Soviet ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Although Mongolian is not an area of interest for me I find the Best Herder Badge to be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Mongolian Honorary Labor Medal.......... but, is it 3596? Or 5596? Type 1 !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted January 11, 2006 Author Share Posted January 11, 2006 Mongolian Honorary Labor Medal.......... but, is it 3596? Or 5596? Type 1 !!This is a Type 1 Variation 2. Very nice medalVariation 1 has "N?" written in front of the serial numberJan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Hi Jan, can you tell what the number is??Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted January 11, 2006 Author Share Posted January 11, 2006 Hi Jan, can you tell what the number is??Thanks!I have no idea, sorry , I would say it is a 3, but I can't be sureJanThis is a Variation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I'd vote for a "5596". Can you do a BIG scan of just the number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Bigger isn't any better, I'm afraid. That "skip" is still a skip no matter how big it gets because there is no "there" there. It's not wear, it's absence of engraving. I don't know why they didn't stamp these nicely instead of nail-file scratching them! It's hard to tell in "natural color" because of shading interference and the wear scratches[attachmentid=22465]But when I use my Awesome Ricky Powers, the actual marks are clearer (if disconcertingly raised looking, complete with scratches turned into junior high school microscope slide bacteria, eekies!)[attachmentid=22466]A double 55, I'd say--just the top of the first one is squooshed closer so not as long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Agreed. Looks like 55 to me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Which places it ??????????? The timeline on these and others never seems to really match up with the serial numbers to specific eras! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 Which places it ??????????? The timeline on these and others never seems to really match up with the serial numbers to specific eras!I would say, this is a early 1950's award, I can't be more precise at the moment.If I find more info I'll let you know Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 This just arrived in my mailbox.A very rare sports/wrestling badge.I've only seen 2 in my 5 years of collecting, one in Dr B's book, and then this one Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Your mailbox must be very happy, Jan! Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 Your mailbox must be very happy, Jan! EdNo forum-smilie is large enough to represent the large grin me & my mailbox have been wearing since this arrived Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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