johannis

Austria Tapferskeitmedaille in Bronze with bar.

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ID: 1   Posted (edited)

Hello.
I believe is original, but I also want the opinion
From more experienced collectors like me.
The ribbon bar has no maker marks.
Exist at all fake ribbon bars?
The ribbon does not glow under blacklight, but the hook is uncommon
and look as is from aluminum.
Please your opinion.
Every comment is welcome.
Thanks, Jannis.

 

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ID: 2   Posted

Hello,
the medal looks good, but I think the ribbon and the bars are not from WW1.
It is the first threetime-bar I see. I only know the single and the double bar..
I thougt the bar is only for the silver medal not for the bronce medal.

 

 

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ID: 3   Posted (edited)

Hello.
Thank you very much for your comment.
I've tried in the web and have
no information found.
Regards, Jannis.

 

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ID: 4   Posted

Hi Jannis,

 

Medal is A-H Bronze Medal for Bravery. It seems to absolutely OK. It´s one of the most common A-H decorations, awarded more than 950.000 times, not counting in so-called “second pieces” (medals purchased privately). Ribbon is older one, however it seems to be post-1918 (1930s). Bar for 4x awarding doesn’t look like original for me. These 4x bars are really rare and copies are very common.  First suspicious sign is that bar is not sewn on the ribbon and there is also no maker´s mark or hallmark (sometimes they were made of silver). It doesn’t mean that the bar without any maker´s mark must be a fake however if it is there it´s better, of course. It is also good to mention that makers´ marks could be faked too. Absolutely most common maker´s mark is the one of “Zimbler” company.

 

Bronze Bravery medal could awarded 4 times, like any other AH Bravery Medal (Silver II. Class, Silver I. Class and Gold)  

 

First picture is showing faked mark of Zimbler, second one is an original Zimbler maker´s mark.  

 

Regards,

 

Tomas

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ID: 5   Posted

Hello Tomas.
Thank you very much for your comment.
All three parts are unworn,it could be a purchased privately in the 20s - 30s,
or not, I hope one day I'll find it.
For me is a great looking medal.
Thanks again for your endeavors
Regards,Jannis.
 

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ID: 6   Posted

Hello Jannis,

IMO the multiple award bar and the ribbon looks like a modern copy. These ribboons used to be late 20st century copies. The medal is a very nice original bravery medal.

Regards,

Balazs

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ID: 7   Posted

Hello.
Thank you very much for your comment.
Regards, Jannis.

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