buellmeister Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Gents, It has indeed been a while and I hope is well with everyone. I happened upon this item and most likely a family time and not military, However was curious if anyone could shed some light on this piece? Thank you so much and seeing that it is most likely Scottish, I wanted to give it a whirl. Kind Regards, Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 The hooks suggest a shoulder belt plate, rather than a waist belt, but that would seem to have the cipher - 'E L'? - turned on its side. I wonder if it is for a band/piper. Also, I would have expected a belt plate to be stamped or moulded - late 18th/early 19th century - rather than having the cipher added as this one is, which strikes me as Victorian. But I may be totally out to lunch! Very curious but clearly quality work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buellmeister Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Peter, I thank you so much for the information you provided. Though there are no marker's marks, I'm in agreement that the craftsmanship is exceptional. Here is another picture from a different angle. Thank you again! Regards, Joel Edited August 7, 2017 by buellmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Joel Ok, then! Now it's an 'M ?' cipher. To quote an old joke, I am better informed but none the wiser. No clue. Such a lovely piece, though, that were it mine I'd keep it just for the aesthetic value even if none of the learned gents here or elsewhere can offer a postivie ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buellmeister Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Peter, I agree! It will definitely will adorn one of my shelves. Thank you again. Kind Regards, Joel Edited August 7, 2017 by buellmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Morning Gents As 'Manuel' once said 'I know nothing' but that never stops me To me it looks like... E (curvy) L (ends Lower) then the half size 'bit' on the lower right... maybe is .... i or l ------////:-/-/:------- so...,, 'EL the first' of 'somewhere' is my drunken guess. ? tony **Although I reckon sometimes it's better not to know - because It can be harder to keep 'pretty' things on a whim if you do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buellmeister Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 Farkas, I thank you for your help. Interesting piece none the less, and the mystery continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Hi Gents Joel i not sure which way my edited pic will show. I've rotated yours 90' and side on it is really looks like an L and E intertwined. tony excuse my poor attempt Edited November 22, 2017 by Farkas Adding poor drawing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Just realised that's old news ! tony Edited November 22, 2017 by Farkas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxcob Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) The "EL" cypher was used in Hessia for Ernst Ludwig but in that case it should probably have a crown. Edited November 22, 2017 by saxcob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 The style is different but the proportions of the two letters seem very similar. I'd say 'Ernst Ludwig' is a real possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buellmeister Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) Gentlemen, Thank you so much! I agree the cypher does look as though it is for Ernst Ludwig! The mystery is solved, I believe? Edited November 23, 2017 by buellmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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