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It's a Meybauer, isn't it? Veryyy nice indeed.

LoL, you do not really believe these are all, hum? Just some, he had many more. One might try rank lists, they should give most of them ...

I'm sorry I've got no idea what's the last one, but it is still Sweden and NOT Switzerland ...

No idea. I wanted my father to buy it, but it got to expensive for us ... I love ANY bar with Z?hringer and something exotic like Siam, even without a Pour le Merite.

Now why is this bar a good one and mine has to be a fake, hum?! @Heiko: I think it was wayyyyy to expensive. I missed to bid on and thought it'll go uuup in price "a bit" more. I didn't like the seller and had some serious doubts, but if you all say it's fine, I'm okay with it.

No news I like to give, but have to ... Of course you may, it's an honour and a please for me. Another one came up, have a look at it ...

I'm very sorry Komtur, but this one is presumably not older than one m o n t h. It has been sold by a so called "Ebay tailer", which means the medals are fine, but the bar is a modern put together. It was from "hagekna41", wasn't it? This thread shoul be looked more closely by e v e r y one - why isn't it pinned anymore?!

As I know, the date of the change is not known for sure, and estimations are from 1879 to 1892. 1892 is the latest possible time for smooth arms, as then came the crown, and pieces with crown and smooth arms do not exist. I do not know where the 1879 date comes from, but as I know, some doubt it ... A very nice one, by the way.

Seems to be interresting, I've also never seen a second one ...

Yes, a l l SPM said is absolutely right. Nice bar, but not too uncommon ... Hmm, seems to be the same thing as with Coloured Persons who call thereselve "Niggers" ...

Well, actually it WAS Baden-Durlach until 1771, when Baden-Baden's male line died out and had no more to reign it, then tey were united to Baden ... PS: The ribbon for the medal on the right isn't okay, and: is the medal silvered?!

The Honour Crosses were indeed for officers only, if I remember correctly, BUT: there are medals as well, and merit crosses which should be for NCOs ... Again no way for an ID, I'd say ...

It seems to be a NCO's bar with Hohenzollern merit medals with and without swords, the black-silver ribbon is "Carl Anton Erinnerungsmedaille of 1911", yes, and the last one anything from Bulgaria. I don't think we'll get an ID here, would need to cross check the lists with and without swords, and they are not too little, and you'll probably get more than just one result for an elderly Hohenzollern NCO - or: it's an officer's bar, with two Honour crosses, again with and without swords. I don't know how to get the difference between those both possibilities ... Hmm, but he's not tooo old: no long service award, and no Centenarmedaille, but yet an peace time award - interresting ...

There is much more paper that came with it, but I don't think that anything more is worth to be shown. Many "F?hrungszeugnisse" and stuff like that, as well as some kind of diary in which he wrote essay-like texts, actually comment on "recent" things: comments about aviation in Berlin, about his work as a NCO, about the earthquake in Italy 1908, about the colonies ... @ Red Eagle: BTW, he used to life Berlin-Tegel, Brunowstra?e ... PS: I don't think that I'll have to keep the group, so if someone might be interrested in giving it a new home ....

Never seen before: a duplicate of the "Sterbeurkunde", made in 1934 "In Angelegenheit des Ehrenkreuzes" - "regarding the Honur Cross"!

In 1934, his widow got the Honour Cross ... PS: It is maker marked "JMME", the same who produced many Third Reich Aviaton badges and stuff like that ...

And in 1915, by then "Knight of the Iron Cross", he was killed in action ... -.-

Later he got Leutnant (and it seems he never left the "Garde F?silier-Regiment"):

Shoulder straps as NCO - yummy, said the moths ...

The buttonhole decoration is still pre1913/pre1911:

Again the back:

His later 2 place medal bar, now post 1913, with the plain blue ribbon. We can see very nice that the order changed: from last to second to last position for the long service award - now it outranks the "Centenarmedaille":

The document for the long service award:

And its back: PS: The Centenarmedaille has been missing and is replaced ...

Here his medal bar from pre1913 (actually pre1911, as he should have been awarded by then a higher long service award):