Chris Boonzaier

Hi, Wild Card nailed it.... "My guy" here..... http://www.kaiserscross.com/40047/46301.html entered service in 1914... got the Silver at Verdun in 1916.... and nothing more until Feb of 1918 when he got the EK2. Obviously possible... but i think unusual... would have thought with the silver you would have automatically have a MVK III tossed in for X-Mas. Best Chris

I think it may be better phrased to say "what would you EXPECT him to have as a minimum"

Hi, after 1916 he on the Somme from Mid Nov 1916 to Mid Jan 1917 then in Flanders from mid Jan to the beginning of April 1917. Before 1916 he was involved in positional warefare on the Somme for the whole of 1915 then in the Artois for the first half of 1916. So he was "around"......

OK, this is a loaded question... a bit of info I got that blew me away... A Bavarian who got the silver bravery medal in mid 1916, was in the line until the end of the war.... What do you think would be the minimum he would have had on his chest by early 1918? All the best Chris

Hi, technically the kaiserschlacht were the springoffensives, but it is often used to refer to Operation Michael. You guy was killed in the Kemmel region, one day after the end of "Georgette". Can you post a scan of the name? Mistbilger is not a name and I assume there is an error somewhere along the line. Best Chris

very interesting. Looks to be the method to record the points and actions to apply for the badge. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the rarest... I would say this is waaaaaay up there. I dont collect WW2 anymore, but this is a fantastic piece.

fantastic collection! Do you have any award documents? Thanks Chris

Family: Marriage: 6 JAN 1862 in Colesberg Spouse: Von Lilienstein, Ida Carolina Johanna Gender: Female Parents: Father: Von Lilienstein, Carl Arthur Children: Green, Henry Aitchison Green, Frank Jordan Home Green, Ida Margaret Catherine Green, Alice Maud Caroline Birth : 11 AUG 1867 Colesberg Death : JUN 1870 Colesberg Gender: Female Green, Arthur von Lilienstein Kisch Green, Percy Birth : 1871 Death : 5 JAN 1873 Gender: MaleGreen, Alice Maud Green, Edith Susanna Green, Winifred Florence

VON LILIENSTEIN - German Legionaires of 1857 > Carl Graf VON LILIENSTEIN assigned to the Berlin district, E. Cape. The > group leader was Captain Count Carl Arthur VON LILIENSTEIN (BROTHERS? > PERHAPS?). puts a bit of south african context to it....

Maybe he is already a veteran? 6 Months at the front would not have aged him overnight. Plenty of baby faces on photos wearing an EK. Best Chris

I think there are plenty of precedents in German badge making where gray is substituted for silver... Officers having silver bullion and other ranks having white or grey cotton... I think we would need the oficial statute here. best Chris

Larcade is OK, but he sometimes jumps to conclusions and sells opinion as fact.

The reason I asked about the giving out of the badge... in my limited experiance "newbies" are often regarded with a bit of hostility in units... and they need to prove themselves before being accepted. Often they replace a liked and experianced comrade, and they appear all fresh and pimply and full of the eagerness and bravado and mouthiness... and the old hands stick together and wait to see how the Newbie turns out. When I was in the army the new guys had to have at least one overseas operation before they could open their mouths and be somewhat accepted. That is why I was wondering that if within the unit you had to "prove yourself" before you were allowed to wear the badge. I.E. if some guy who had fought for months at Verdun and wore his badge with pride... what would he think if the same badge was worn by a guy the day he arrived at the unit. Same way I think the US 1st Cav division ives a Stetson to the guys who have done a tour, having "earned" their spurs?

Has anyone found the official statutes regarding either of the badges? They must have been officially approved, not just verbally by the kaiser.. these would then have been published and diseminated...

Well, technically Freedom fighters do not need to be baddies... and Mercenaries either... Western countries make rather extensive use of the latter... I think what filupe was on about was how does a black guy lead a Nazi group and Aryan group?

In my experience, Neo Nazis are not usually from amongst the brightest members of the population. JAckie was probably able to use the Jedi Mind trick on them and convince them.

Sigh.... I used to own the DSO group to a commander of Skinners Horse... in Retrospect I wish I had never traded it away.... That figurine would have gone nicely with it.

Heres a question.... within SB Rohr and the FW with their respective badges... where the sleeve badges standard issue... or did they need to be earned? i.e. Was it issued like a Helmet and regulation underwear... or did the soldier have to spend time in the unit and earn the right to wear it? Best Chris

Hi, Iam having difficulty pinpointing the German divisions that faced the Canadians... So far it seems it was the 1st Garde Res Div, and a small with of a Marine Division? Does anyone have an Idea or map? Thanks Chris

Interesting! Almost "German" solution !

Hi Uwe, thanks, that was what I thought, was not sure if there was something I was missing because I am not sure what the "Widmung" related to. What is the purpose of the "er" after the dates? Must be an old form. Best Chris

would looooove to know what he did for all those medals.....

yes indded... if it does not involve hours of typing for you. Thanks Chris

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I assume the Seniors were 1813 recipients? Can anyone figure out what their task was from the text?