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Here is another that I missed on ebay due to a technical difficulty- I was drinking. Made by Carl (or Karl) Leburg of Strassburg.

The reverse. Note that the pins are bent in the same pattern as the Juncker.

Here's another one, made by the Stuttgart Metallfabrik. This badge is almost entirely of zink except for the pins soldered to it for fastening to the backing plate. Remainents of a finish are visible.

Definately original, rare, and in great condition.

Thanks for showing this Les. I'll look it over this weekend. Right now I am celebrating the birth of my first grandchild, a beautiful baby boy.

We still haven't heard from either of these members....

Les, why not just post the scans here yourself? I for one, would like to see this PLM fake you are talking about. I would like to make my own determination on this. thanks for all the helpful info guys.

The reverse setup looks like that found on early schinkels.

Here's one that shares many of the obverse charactoristics of yours. It must be a 1939 or later piece because it measures 43+mm. It would measure 44mm except it is nicely vaulted.

Thanks for clearing that up Prosper. So somebody got a great badge and ebay got screwed out of a commission.

It didn't. Starting bid was 1.99 euro but nobody bid.

An elegant award. Thanks for the info Dave.

I want to thank everyone that has provided input on this award, both publicly and via PM/email. Whether right or wrong it was all with good intent which speaks volumes for the people around here. For those that haven't made a purchase of this magnitude (no slam intended) you cannot imagine the pressure one feels to get it right. The fact others want to help you get it right is comforting. In this vein I want to express my heart-felt thanks to all of you. You have all helped me make a very big decision that I am comfortable living with, I will keep this award. Thanks for looking out for me and whether you were right or wrong is immaterial because at the end of the day you were doing it for the right reason- to protect a fellow collector. I would urge you to continue this as it helps us all to know we, as a collective community, can find assistance when we need it. thanks again. ps. So this is what you get when you covert your Nazi zink into Prussian silver/gold.

Thanks Steven. I've been back thru Prussian Blue from cover to cover tonight and have noted what you've said. I will think things through this weekend. The award is beautiful. I just have to wrap my mind around it and get comfortable with it or not. I noticed that no two PLMs are exactly alike even by maker. Given that there cannot be that many dies do you attribute these differences to hand finishing? I think the lack of a maker mark bugs me the most. Is this atypical? I also think this award used to belong to Andreas and I wish he would weigh in. I've dealt with him in the past and respect his opinion. On another note, we met at the Dulles Expo center last year. Had a nice chat as I remember it. I'm looking forward to my deluxe copy of the Iron Time.

Steven, what is the history of the PLM on pg 238?

I'm open to all opinions t this point.

So far one says good and a pm that says bad. I guess by the resounding silence from most it is problematic at best. This one will be going back.

There is no maker mark.

eagle and loop.

Reverse

Marked 938 on the barouque loop. It has been heavily worn.

I'd like some opinions on this PLM. I've gone thru my Prussian Blue and have my own idea. Now I'd like to hear some others. thanks in advance.

Or something like this.

Very nice. The Crown Order is one of the most elegant awards IMHO.

The middle flak looks like the lizardman fake. Better pics will tell.