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Hello, last year I've got a EK2 marked "Fr" in a early grey box. Regards Andreas

Hello Chris, would you show me the backside of the silver medal, with a better foto of the eyelet ? The engraver was Ries, not Reis. The medals with the big portrait are all Ries-medals, if they are original Regards Andreas

Hello Chris, I could find him on ancestry. Heinrich Asche, born 24.11.1888 . Hometown Fürth Mittelfranken. Awards bayr. Militärverdienstkreuz 3. Klasse X, Verwundetenabzeichen. Regards Andreas

Hello Miguel, in wartime ther were five official producers of the MVK and three producers of the MVO. Hemmerle, Leser und Weiss produces both kinds. Lauer and Deschler produced only third and second class of MVK's. Here is a thread, where you can see a lot of different MVK's http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/57227-bayerische-militrverdienstkreuz-321-klasse/?p=531978 The individual levels of MVK were dependent on the rank of the mortgaged soldiers. Third Class swords soldiers and corporals Third Class crown swords sergeants (Unteroffizier) and sergeants (Sergeanten) Second Swords class sergeant (Vizefeldwebel, Feldwebel) and cadet (Fahnenjunker) Second Class crown and swords warrant officer (Offiziers-Stellvertreter), cadets (Fähnrich) First Class with swords warrant Officers (Feldwebelleutnant) First Class crown swords, Warrant Officers, mid-level officials in the Ministry of War. Regards Andreas

Hello, here my one and only mini from a bavarian seaman. Regards Andreas

Hello, my grandfather does his basic military training in 1935 in Stolp/Pommern. His unit was the 5. Kavallerie-Regiment. Mackensen was the chief of this regiment. This two fotos are from my grandfathers pictures. I think, the wreath was laid down by Mackensen on Blücher monument in Stolp/Slupsk. The first and the second company were the "Leibhusaren", the third was the "Blücherhusaren". Only the first and the second company carried the skull of the Leibhussaren between eagle and Korkade (oakleaves), this time. Regards Andreas

Hello, the " Landwehr Dienstauszeichnung 1. Klasse" is a very nice dekoration. It is made of silver. There are some variants, because this decoration was awarded over 40 years. It was foundet in the 1870th. One-piece variants and crosses with seperat medaillons. I know the producer Weiss&Co, Quellhorst and Hemmerle. Regards Andreas

Hello, the Landwehr service medal first class for 20 years was awarded to Landwehr officers. The medal is relatively rare because it was returnable. @ Beau Newman a very nice bar, made for civillian clothes ( in german Frackspange). It should have been a Hauptmann (captain) of the bavarian Landwehr. Regards Andreas

Hello hipnos, the second bar, is a bar of an Unteroffizier (NCO) with 9 years service Medal. The first bar is a little bit difficult to classify. The most awards are prussian, only the MVK is bavarian. The Kriegshilfekreuz in the middle is for non-combattants, the EK and the MVK for combattants. Possibly he was at the beginning of WW1 in the garrison and become later a combattant. Regards Andreas PS: the MVK with X is a Deschler, the MVK with crownX is a Hemmerle.

The fifth producer is Deschler. In 1918 deschler produces one-piece variants in the different materials ferrous-metal and zinc. Look at the agraffe of the one-piece-variants, there is available a lot of excess material . Deschler is a widespresat variant and ther are a lot of small differences here the main variants. Left the regular model wit seperat medaillons. In the middle one piece ferrous-metal and left side one-piece zinc. Deschler made second and third classes of MVK.

Lauer produces for the bavarian Ordenskanzlei till 1916, then after the WW1. Lauer produces third and second classes of the MVK. We differ two types. Typ1 with strong swords (right side) and Type 2 (left side)

Third producer is Weiss Weiss has the biggest swordgrips. Differences are in the medaillons. Look at the tail of the lion. There is a lion with one tail and a lion with a double-tail. Another variation is a onepiece-variation, only known in the third class with swords and crown/swords variant. The one-piece variant was produced at the end of war. Weiss produces all classes, without the first class crown/swords variant

Next is Hemmerle, Hemmerle has three main variants. The second variant has differences in agraffe and swordsquillons. Hemmerle produces all classes of the MVK in wartime. You see from left to right. Early typ 1 with thick swords, Type 2a and 2 b with different agraffes, and type 3 with a new kind of swords. Other differences are GH-markings, different medaillons, form of the crossarms, etc.

Hello to all, a lot of users in this CMIC-forum own bavarian MVK's. I want to give all MVK-collectors some pictures to see the differences between the five producers of MVK during wartime-models. To show all variants is not possible for me, because i don't know all variants, but I want to show the main variants. All the variants are third classes with swords.from my collection. Lets start with Leser. Leser has three variants. It differs in the ringholder and the swordsquillons. You see from left to right Typ 1 (1914), Type 2 (- 1916) and Typ 3. Leser produces all classes of the MVK. Regards Andreas

Hello David, my firend is not a member in this forum. He sent me 15 pages about Haynau. It will take a little bit time for me to translate this pages. Haynau was awarded with the Militär-Ehrenzeichen in 1805. This time bavaria was a Kurfürstentum, not a kingdom. Bavaria became Kingdom in 1806. Haynaus Militär-Ehrenzeichen was changed into the new MMJO. Here the first sites. Regards Andreas

Hello david, I have to ask my collectors colleague, he is owner of the Schrettinger-book, which listed all MMJO owners since beginning. Regards Andreas

Hello, here is my litle napoleonic collection. The cross with the square cross-arms was awarded to the bavarian veterans, which fought with Napoleon till 1813. King Maximilian II foundet this cross 1848. I miss this cross in the veterans box. Possibly he died before 1848. The cross with the round arms was given 1815 to the bavarian veterans which fought against Napoleon. The round coins are prussian Medals. What do you think about the ribbon of the St. Helena medal, is it a original ribbon? Regards Andreas

Hello Chris, that was a MVK 3. class with crown and swords. The cross was Hemmerle, the swords Deschler. You said, it belongs to a bar or to a konvolut. The last pictures are two MVK with swords from Deschler and one MVK crown/swords from Weiss I think i have to visit you again, to find the mixed cross. Regards Andreas

Hello, thanks for this wonderful threat. Last year, I've bought one of these medals, because some bavarian soldiers were awarded with this medal. Has anyone papers from a german or bavarian owner? Regards Andreas

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Hello, here my newest entrys. Hemmerle second and third class with swords, third model, early type (1914). That were the first models of the 1914 type. The swords are bigger than the following models. The box of the silver cross has the size like the box of MVO. The third class is placed in a regular box. Regards Andreas

Hello, thanks for this pages. In my collection is an prussian bar with a MVK 1. class on it. Possible, the owner was a soldier in such a prussian troop with bavarian owner, or it was an bavarian inhabitant in a prussian troop. Regards Andreas

Hello Ulsterman, the 1871-medal is made of steel. It was for a non-combattant. Regards Andreas

This bar I bought for three weeks. A late bavarian MVK, war-metal with iron swords, made by Deschler. The EK is marked "G" for Godet. A honorable bar for a brave soldier. I like this kind of bars very much. regards Andreas

Here a nice bar of a Landwehroffizier. König-Ludwig-Kreuz and servicemedal first class bavarian Landwehr ( 20 years). The Landwehr-servicemedal was returnable, so it is a rare decoration made of silver. This officer was a non-combattant. Regards Andreas