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It is about something like this.

I like to raise your attention to a new book about the German South West Africa Commemorative Medal by Gordon McGregor. The description of the book is This book endeavours to portray the unique occurrence when Imperial Germany awarded her medals en-bloc to Imperial British troops for an operation deep in the Kalahari Desert in the northern part of the British colony of the Cape of Good Hope early the previous century. This operation was against Morenga and his band of followers and resulted in the Battle of Eenzaamheid on 20 September 1907. At this battle Morenga and the majority of his followers were killed and when the German colonial authorities learned of this they were so relieved that Moreng, who was a thorn in the side of the Imperial German colonial administration, was dead that they decided to award the South West Africa Commemorative Medal, with the bar ?KALAHARI 1907?, to those members of the force that had defeated him en-bloc. This was to be the one and only time that such an en-bloc awarding of Imperial German medals to Imperial British forces occurred and as such is unique in history. Also is the story of the awarding of Imperial German medals to members of the British Bechuanaland Protectorate Policy Force who assisted the German colonial authorities in tracking down Simon Koper and his band also deep in the Kalahari Desert. This led the German colonial troops to organise a force to pursue Simon Koper into his hideout in the Kalahari Desert and engage him. This force engaged Simon Koper at the Battle of Seatsub and defeated him there and was generally known as the ?Kalahari Expedition?. Again the German colonial authorities were relieved that the last of the thorns in the side of the German colonial authorities had been eliminated that they also awarded the South West Africa Commemorative medal but with the bar ?KALAHARI 1908? to them. This book is a must for every historian and colonial collector dealing with the former colony of German South West Africa and the activities of Imperial British forces in Southern Africa. On 102 pages, paperback, you will find the story, a name list, pictures of medal groups, certificates and photographs. Including a story about British administration and how they deal with foreign awards. ISBN 987-99916-40-74-7 It is about 13 ? without shipping and can be ordered at Namibia Scientific Society P.O. Box 67 Windhoek Namibia mailto: nwg@iway.na A German bank account is available. Shipping by airmail is recommended because by land will take 6-8 weeks to Germany.

Have a look here. http://sammlergemeinschaft-deutscherauszei...p?threadid=7644 (see under Verleihungslisten) You will find a list of all Imperial German naval officiers with their decorations.

I think, I found a similiar bar. It could be the same kind as on the medalbar.

Sorry, but nothing makes a fake impossible!! Of course you are right, the clasps had to be purchased by the owner himself and there are several manufactorers. But this typ is far beyond WWI and not the kind according the rules, i.e. as it is written down in the foundation. They should be the same kind as for the China and Southwest Commemorative medal.

I don?t like the battle clasp. It is not the kind it should be. Bernd

Anton Manz Rittmeister, 1. Schwere Reiter Reg, MVO Knight 2. Cl - 09.09.1897 and Officers Cross as Oberst zD - 20.08.1907. That was all about MVO. Bernd

Congratulations Rick. Nearly perfect. It is Walter von Sch?nbergs pre WWI bar. The clasp Liang-Hsiang-Hsien is removed from the bar. The Oldenburg House Order is with crown and swords. The Order of the Crown 3. class was not removed for the 2. class with x during WWI as far as I know. Bernd

The reverse.

I have this medal bar in my collection since several years. It is a good example of different possibilities and varieties of imperial German medal bars. The questions are - what ribbons/decorations are or should be on the bar - to whom does it belong Have fun. Bernd

It is hard to see. Is the lion and the L added separately to the plate and is the plate separated from the ring? The medallions must consist out of three separate parts. Bernd

Unteroffizier Adolf Koslowsky from the Ulan Regiment No 6 went to GSWA and returned to it 1906. The same year he was promoted to Sergeant. He received the MEZ2 in 1905 and Saxony Meiningen Military Merit Medal with clasp Afrika in 1906.

Nice collection, too.

No job is finished until the paper work is done.

Deschler never did those! Bernd

Rick in 2008 I hope I will finish and stop with MVO/MVK. At the moment I have 19.000 entries. When I stop all, MVO and MVK, peacetime awards will be done. All MVOx exempt 4th class with swords after September 1914. All MVK 1st class and MVK 2nd with crown and swords. Finally over 25.000 entries. In part time. Btw I just finished the list of the Kolonial-Denkm?nze. Bernd

MVK 1. Klasse mit Schwertern am Band f?r Kriegsverdienst (Beamtenband): ca. 1.700 MVK 2. Klasse mit Krone und Schwertern am Band f?r Kriegsverdienst: ca. 2.600 You can find the name "Beamtenband" only in Nimmergut?s book nowhere else. On certificates you find ... am Bande f?r Kriegsverdienst, which is the correct name. Bernd

Yes, it is Eugen Stuhlmann. It is a WWI bar without long service cross. He got LS in 1920 for 1915 but did not wear it on his bars. The BMV4x was for GSWA, so it is the correct ribbon. Bernd

I found this little darling. Bernd

Andreas, Eitze thank you very much for showing. Eitze, the certificate is very nice. Heller was allowed to wear the clasp S?DWESTAFRIKA 1893/95 Bernd

Hello I am looking for persons who received the Colonial Commemorative Medal 1912 (Kolonialdenkm?nze). What I need is the name, surname, rank and clasp (Gefechtsspange) (when known). I am also looking for certificates especially which are signed by the Emperor Wilhelm II. Thank you very much for cooperation. Bernd

Rick, this is one page out of the Luebeck rolls. Bernd

Sorry for my stupid question but the picture is not so good. What should it be, a 2. class (1905) or a 3. class (1913) without swords? In case it should be a 2. class (silver) I can post a picture of a real one. In case it should be a 3. class without swords, congratulation!!! You are one out of a million other collectors who are owning the only one which ever was awarded. Please excuse my sarcasm. Bernd