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STOP!!! :cheers: :cheers:

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Here the extremely rare Colonial pattern 1st class (2nd type). Body marked G.H. 900 (900/1000 silver, Gebrüder Hemmerle), swords marked GH. Front center medaillon real gold, cypher L real gold.

No home made repair, here is the backside:

1st class until 1917 w real gold center Weiß & Co. swords by Hemmerle

After I got better pics of the BMVO I am sorry I have to tell you it is a 100% gilded 4th class and so it cannot be the order which has to be on the medal bar. This fact alone makes the whole medal bar most doubtful.

Fact is that Hemmerle made100 pieces, Leser made 200, Weiß zero. 246 were awarded, remaining items stayed in stock. Weiss produced 4th classes only. 3rd classes last type are NEVER just gilded 4th classes, construction was completely different which makes it easy to detect faked items.

It is no problem to find out whether the BMVO is an original or fake. All I need is a high resoultion pic and I can tell for sure what it is. Paul got my email address, I will let all of you know the result here in this forum then.

What a beauty! 1st I have ever seen. :love: :love:

These West Wall devices were not allowed to wear and against the regulations.

This badge was given by Bavarian crown prince Rupprecht for shooting merits in the 20ies and 30ies, unofficial badge, not seen very often.

Yes it is.

I have had a handfull originals over the years, yours is a fake, sorry. All awarded items have a much better quality plus they are made of pickled iron, no exception.

IMO this cross is not an original 1st class, most probably a former 2nd class which was upgraded.

OK :cheers:

What a shame such a ..... lady got such a wunderfulll piece of history. But what can we do, greed eats brain!

Accepted. Who the hell reads books like that? :jumping: :jumping:

Please Mr fairy tail man let us know what you think to know better. :speechless1: :speechless1:

If you have better infos please share them w us. I myself have seen several items and all were sold as collectors copies.

Not of Models staff but of some Field Marshalls batons (Rommel, Model, Göring, Dönitz and some others), one could see them at the MAX and SOS and also Weitze offerd one, over some years. They were all made not to cheat somebody but as high quality copies for collectors who want to have items which are not available as genuine awarded items. I heard five of each were made but I do not have a proof for this information.

The realistic price for BMVKs with crown and swords is about 200 - 250, but beware of fakes. There are a lot of former 3rd classes on the market which were upgraded.

That's the point!

Paul, a great find, congratulations! Also a hard to find neck order.

Bavarian lions do not have the double tail, it is Hessian proveniance, whatever it was.

His face.