Bill Garvy

Another manufacturer accounted for in my collection, this one an "HB", I think, partial maker's stamp notwithstanding. . . So many crosses, so little time. . . obverse: reverse: maker mark: Let me know your thoughts, gentlmen. . .

These unmarked Iron Crosses in 2nd Class are very difficult for me to identify unless there are some clearly identifiable characteristics, i.e. Souval. The closest "guess" I am willing to make is an unmarked "55", J.E. Hammer & S?hne of Geringswalde, based soely on a visual comparison of the following features, the last "9" in "1939" appears lower than the second "9", the beading, almost flattened on the high points, and the inconsistent cross-hatching on he inner corners. Finally, the shape of the swastika, and finish of the core compares quite similarly to other "55's" on file in our Databank. This is just my "guess", gentlemen. . .

Here's another in 1st Class similar to the cross posted by Mr. Williamson. . . obverse: reverse: clasp (note the absence of a seam):

reverse:

unmarked, one-piece construction, non-magnetic core. . . obverse: [attachmentid=52599]

Karl, I agree, it looks like a "7", which would make it a Meybauer?

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There is an uncommon variant where the L/11 maker mark is not in a box; please reference the example below. . . obverse: [attachmentid=52224] reverse: [attachmentid=52225]

That also appears to be the rarer maker marked variant "L/11" that isn't in a box. In a sense you could say these are both relatively uncommon examples, that is the double marked Zimmermann and the Deumer. Tough choice; I like them both, but I would probably choose the Deumer inasmuch as I already have a double marked Zimmermann. . .

They look like "LW's", a unknown manufacturer. . .

Judging by its fuller shape I would agree, a World War II manufactured Imperial Iron Cross in 1st Class. I am glad to see someone else has a passion for these "hybrids". Here are some of mine: "click here".

Joe, Thank you for your kind words, and here is another "WILM" for comparison purposes. . .

Johann Wagner & S?hne, Berlin . . .

If it's any consolation, my first two Iron Crosses in 1st Class were Floch's, and from the same dealer no less! My learning curve oftentimes resembles a straight line!

Thank you, George, for the reference; I shall have to consult this volume. The only argument I can put forward is that the pin, hinge, and clasp configuration of your cross does not match/resemble the configuration of other known authetic Deschler's illustrated here and elsewhere.

With all due respect, GMU, I also have never seen such a Deschler with that particular pin, hinge, and clasp configuration. If you would be so kind as to disclose to us what "literature" you are referencing where a Deschler such as yours is shown as genuine, as your time permits. . .

An "L/11" Wilhelm Deumer manufactured during the Third Reich Period. . . obverse: reverse: maker mark:

An unmarked example. . . obverse: reverse:

Let's see your Deschler & S?hne's in 1st Class. Unmarked, "L/10", or "1", I love them all! An "L/10" in 1st Class. . . obverse: reverse: Bring 'em on!

An unmarked Meybauer obviously manufactured during the early years of the Third Reich. . . obverse: reverse:

If I may, here is my contribution. Formerly from the collection of "motorhead", this example now resides in Chicago, and was recently discussed in another topic thread. . . obverse: reverse: maker mark:

Joe, A lovely piece indeed; thank you for sharing!

Here's my "K.A.G." in 2nd Class. . . I'm still looking for a 1st Class example. . . obverse: reverse: maker mark:

Yours is a very nice cross, Scott. I suspect the maker mark may be "CD 800". In the meantime, upon closer inspection/magnification, I think the cross I initially posted is a "900". Eureka! [attachmentid=41224]

This just in from the land where the Iron Crosses grow, an "800" silver stamped Iron Cross in 2nd Class. obverse: Note the positioning of the "9" relative to the other numbers in the date. reverse: The detailing of this cross is phenomenal! "800" silver stamp on the ring: Note the die flaw. . .