Bill Garvy

Thank you, gentlemen! I am grateful for such a venue to share our "collective" enthusiasm!

Here is the link to the list of manufacturers of the Iron Cross in 2nd Class, 1914: "click here". "Pr" is listed as an "unknown maker", and you're right, Joe, it looks like an "Fr" to me. I'll take your word for it, and add this one to my wish list. . .

A very rare and elegant ensemble, Don; very well done!

I just added this elegant "900" silver stamped pinback to the collection. It is highly vaulted, and quite thin. with remarkably little tarnish for its silver content. . . obverse: [attachmentid=40016] reverse: [attachmentid=40018] clasp with "900" stamp below: [attachmentid=40019]

Thank you, David, for confirming my suspicions on this matter!

As always, you have posted three superb crosses, and I wish I lived where the Iron Crosses grow. . .

I didn't see it either! It's my understanding that most maker marked Meybauer's, i.e. "L/13" or "7", are usually poorly marked. Here's an example of a poorly defined "7". . . (Please note the file marks on the inner corners; this cross appears to have been hand vaulted, and by whom and when remains a mystery. . .) [attachmentid=38271] Regardless, they are both fine crosses, Jan Arne!

It appears the maker mark on the first example is under the pin on the reverse side of the cross, whereas for the second example, it is on the reverse of the pin. It also have strong suspicions the second example may, in fact, be an "L/13" Meybauer. . . [attachmentid=38103]

I was offered this Iron Cross in 2nd Class. It was alleged to be a "74" for the firm of Carl Mauer & S?hne, whom I did not think manufactured the Iron Cross in 2nd Class. Upon receipt and inspection of this cross, I am of the opinion it is a wide-frame "24", inasmuch as it appears to resemble the other 24's I have inspected with respect to core and frame features. I also returned the cross. Gentlemen, I am soliciting your best thinking on this matter. obverse: reverse: maker mark:

And finally here's a nice scan of the maker mark. . . [attachmentid=36770]

Full length ribbon as well, like yours. . . reverse: [attachmentid=36769]

No packet, you lucky man, but here's another example. . . obverse: [attachmentid=36768]

In the case. . . [attachmentid=35687]

Cased "65" from the "Garvy" collection, now in the collection of Dr. Joseph Campbell. . . obverse: [attachmentid=35685] reverse: [attachmentid=35686]

Thank you! Nice cross. I am still looking for a "B". . .

This is only the second "L/56" pinback I have seen, and it is in much better condition than that one! obverse: reverse: maker mark:

It looks like two marks; a "B", for an unknown maker, and an "800", for the silver content. I'd sure like to see the rest of your cross, please. . .

reverse. . . [attachmentid=35098]

Here's another, not that we tire of looking at these. . . [attachmentid=35095]

Beautiful crosses, Micha, and may I also comment that the pin, hinge, & clasp configuration resembles those utilized on Otto Schickle manufactured crosses. Many unmarked crosses I have looked at, and thought were unmarked Schickles, have later turned out to be unmarked Rettenmaier's or Meyer's. . .

clasp & hinge. . . [attachmentid=33967] [attachmentid=33966]

Reverse. . . [attachmentid=33965]

Early unmarked Meybauer for comparison. . . obverse: [attachmentid=33964]

A later style Meybauer ("7") in 1st Class, courtesy of "motorhead", now in the "Garvy" collection. . . obverse: reverse: maker mark:

Yes, I'm afraid your assessment is correct, Marti; it's an Eastern European reproduction. . .