Giannis S.

With some additional research and help, the medal bar is restored.

To my knowledge, only one cross was allowed to be worn.

If so, the third hole does not provide room for another award.

To me it looks like a second hole for a pinback medal.

Yes Andreas, this is our man. Ref: https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/de/view/bsb11563462?page=70,71 https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/de/view/bsb11563462?page=364,365

Going back the Rangliste, I have found this: Unterleutnant: 31 Oct 1845, 3rd Jaeger Bataillon Oberleutnant: 23 Dec 1849, 5th Jaeger Bataillon Hauptmann: 16 May 1859, 5th Jaeger Bataillon Major: 11 Aug 1870, Commander of the 7th Jaeger Bataillon Oberstleutnant a.D.: 28 Feb 1874 I have nothing about birth/death dates and/or family. Ref: https://www.bavarikon.de/object/bav:BSB-MDZ-00000BSB10484014?p=1&cq=&lang=de https://www.bavarikon.de/object/bav:BSB-MDZ-00000BSB10376607?p=1&cq=&lang=de https://www.bavarikon.de/object/bav:BSB-MDZ-00000BSB10376612?p=1&cq=&lang=de https://www.bavarikon.de/object/bav:BSB-MDZ-00000BSB11038625?p=1&cq=&lang=de https://www.bavarikon.de/object/bav:BSB-MDZ-00000BSB11313464?p=1&cq=&lang=de

Photo of Oberst z.D. Karl Ziegler, dated February 6, 1887 Medal bar: 1. Bayern Militär-Verdienstorden, Ritterkreuz 1.Klasse (Bavaria Military Order of Merit, Knight's Cross 1st Class) 2. Kriegsdenkmünze 1870/71 aus Bronze (War Commemorative Medal for Fighters 1870/71) 3. Bayern Armee-Denkzeichen 1866 (Campaign Memorial 1866) 4. Bayern Dienstauszeichnungskreuz 1.Klasse (Long Service Cross 1st Class) 5. Baden Orden vom Zähringer Löwen Ritterkreuz 1.Klasse (Baden Order of the Zähringer Lion Knight's Cross 1st Class) 6. Baden Gedächtnis-Medaille für 1849 (Baden Commemorative medal for 1849) Following entry is from the Militär-Handbuch des Königreiches Bayern 1876. Here he is seen with the DA 2.Klasse. Ref: https://www.bavarikon.de/object/bav:BSB-MDZ-00000BSB11331549?p=329&cq=D&lang=de

With 30 hours left until the end of the sale, it has reached €815 so far.

Yes, does not glow.

Hopefully these two were bought by the same bidder,

At least she says that this is a museum/exhibition piece, made in the 40s or 50s.

It is unevenly stretched. Even the EK2 looks like to have different width of white stripes.

That was my thought about "Beendet" as well. You can't tell the difference. it is more likely that the seller terminated it prematurely.

EK2 ribbon is dirtier than the HHO one. From the back side they look the same. This is not a recent purchase, I've had this for about 20 years.

"Beendet" is "Finished" or "Terminated". So, probably it went unnoticed.

And it's the same as this one, which no one bid on.

5-place ribbon bar with: 1. Iron Cross 2nd class 2. Knight's Cross with Swords of the Hohenzollern House Order 3. Prussia, Order of the Red Eagle, 4th Class (probably) 5. Prussia, 25 Year Long Service Cross for Officers 6. 1897 Centenary Medal

Also has a Baden Hausorden Albrecht des Bären Kommandeurzeichen, Now at 250 € from 12 bidders.

Two award documents of Obermaschinist Albert Wolter. 1. Allgemeines Ehrenzeichen 2. Dienstauszeichnung 3.Klasse Albert Wolter was born in Klein-Ziegenort, Pommern on 1873 . Carrier: 1893 - Started service 1898/1899 - Aboard the training vessel SMS Stosch 1900 - Aboard the SMS Jaguar in China (Boxer Rebellion) 1901/05 - At I. Werftdivision, Kiel (Werftdivision der Ostseeflotte) 1908 - Back on the SMS Jaguar in China 1912 - Aboard the SMS Blücher 1913/14 - At I. Werftdivision, Kiel (Werftdivision der Ostseeflotte) Promotions: 01.04.1905 - Promoted to Maschinist 01.01.1911 - Promoted to Obermaschinist Medals: 1901 - Dienstauszeichnung 3.Klasse 1912 - Allgemeines Ehrenzeichen 1913 - Dienstauszeichnung 1.Klasse He should have been also awarded with the 1900/01 China Medal (China-Denkmünze für Kämpfer) and the 1897 Centenary Medal (Kaiser Wilhelm I. Erinnerungsmedaille). Ref: https://www.german-navy.de/hochseeflotte/ships/gunboats/jaguar/operations.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Jaguar https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werftdivision#Werftdivision_der_Ostseeflotte/I._Werftdivision Credit: initially researched by Rick Lundstrom

The same seller has listed several items that cannot be classified as originals.

Another signature, dated 15.08.1918

Following is the award document of Hermann Grothe, as a Lt. d. Res. for his Wound badge in black. Signed by Major Matthias Feuerheerd, commander of IR24. Hermann Ernst Grothe was born on 10.12.1894 in Königsberg, Prussia. He died in Berlin on 05.04.1959. On 01.10.1913, Grothe joined the Infantry Regiment "Grand Duke Friedrich Franz II of Mecklenburg-Schwerin" (4th Brandenburg) No.24 as a one-year volunteer, and rose to the rank of Leutnant before the end of the WW1. From January 1919 to March 1920, he was transferred to the Volunteer-Regiment von Oven, given various assignments. During WW2 he was a commander of Nebelwerfer/Nebeltruppen units, and his last assignment was with the Volks-Werfer-Brigade 1 (1st People's-Rocket-Artillery-Brigade). On 09.05.1945, Major General Grothe was taken prisoner of war by the Russians on the Hel Peninsula, and was released on 07.10.1955 after 10 years of imprisonment. On 08.10.1955, he returned to Germany (right in photo) together with the then retired Panzertruppe General Sigfrid Henrici (left in photo). Promotions: 13.12.1914 - Unteroffizier der Reserve 27.09.1915 - Leutnant der Reserve 28.03.1920 - Polizei-Leutnant 22.12.1921 - Polizei-Oberleutnant 29.04.1927 - Polizei-Hauptmann 01.08.1935 - Polizei-Major 15.10.1935 - Major der Wehrmacht 01.03.1938 - Oberstleutnant 14.20.1941 - Oberst 01.03.1945 - Generalmajor Awards: 09.03.1916 - Iron Cross 2nd Class 29.06.1916 - Grand Duchy of Mecklenburg Military Cross of Merit 2nd Class 30.06.1916 - Wound badge in black 01.08.1916 - Iron Cross 1st Class 05.05.1918 - Knights Cross of the Royal House Order of Hohenzollern with Swords 24.12.1934 - Cross of Honor / Hindenburg Cross 02.10.1936 - Wehrmacht Long Service awards 4th to 2nd Class 17.06.1940 - Clasp to the Iron Cross 2nd Class 25.10.1941 - War Merit Cross 2nd and 1st Class with Swords 12.07.1942 - Clasp to the Iron Cross 1st Class 01.09.1942 - Eastern Front Medal Ref: https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Grothe https://www.tracesofwar.com/persons/104138/Grothe-Hermann-Ernst-Generalmajor.htm https://thirdreichpictures.blogspot.com/2020/05/heer-generalmajor-g.html

@Solomon @Komtur fantastic items guys!

Nice bar Rick!

A three piece medal bar with the Tapferkeitsmedaille in Zinc. A total of 15,788 of this medal were awarded, with approximately 2,000 in zinc.