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The first class were given to high ranking persons involved with personal activity or with donations of money in the work of the red cross society. To be active there was en vogue for woman of the nobility. So you can find in the lists mentioned above the Herzogin von Anhalt, F?rstin zur Lippe, Gro?herzogin von Luxemburg, Erzherzogin von ?sterreich and so on. I found only one picture of a person with the 1st class: Generalstabsarzt der Armee Otto von Schjerning. The first class by Godet was not by the Generalordenskommission officially awarded. These were only the minted crosses by the Berliner M?nze! May be someone can show an original of these awarded crosses. But be careful, there are a lot of copies!

The back of the Godet cross (it is marked Godet 938, unfortunately not to be seen on this pic): Greetings, Komtur.

A red cross 1st class decoration by Godet:

I will add some figures too (if there are no two toes to step on) According to Elke Bannicke (Numismatisches Heft 3 1996) there were produced 260 red cross 1st class decorations in the Berliner M?nze between 1898 and 1921, these are the official awarded decorations. There are also different crosses made by Godet (see advertisement of Godet in a journal from 1918), probably on behalf of private persons. The number of 161 awarded 1st class crosses is mentioned in the Journal "Kyffh?user" 12/1937 for the first time. Peter Sauerwald counted in the "Preu?ische Ordensliste" (until 1913), in the "Deutscher Reichsanzeiger" and "K?niglich Preu?ischer Staatsanzeiger" (from 1913) 114 awards (Journal "Orden und Ehrenzeichen" 26/2003). Elke Bannicke/Lothar Tewes suppose (Journal "Orden und Ehrenzeichen" 37/2005), that the reason for the gap between produced and documented awarded figures is caused by spontaneous awardings of the Kaiser in the war, wich often can?t be found in official journals. They showed, that the produced and awarded numbers of crosses until 1914 is the same (about 70). The difference is only to be found in the war, when 190 crosses 1st class where produced in the Berliner M?nze and the documented number of awards is distinct lower (about 40). The production in the war of these 190 crosses is splitted in parts of single sets between 10 an 50 from 1914 to 1921. The economic situation of Germany allows in the war and after only to produce things, wich are needed. Therefore Bannicke/Tewes conclude, that all the 190 step by step in the war minted crosses are awarded afterwards. So the complete number of awarded red cross 1st class decoration must be about 260 (the number of produced crosses).

That?s what I like here, quick and substantial replies @ Rick and Heiko Yes, it is odd to give one order back and keep the other. I?m not sure, but it could be, that before 1918 all orders were withdrawn to award them again after repairing. After 1918 the only aim was to recollect the rare metal. About 12 g of silver wasn?t perhaps worth the procedure, but 12 g of gold was it? I hope to get some more information about this topic today. There is no envelope and adress to the paper. @ Glenn the first time I see the Stammliste of the Kaiser Wilhelms Akademie published in 1910. I was searching for it a few month. Decorated medicals are my special interest, so this book is essential for me. But what is the source of Funckes promotion? thanks and greetings, Komtur.

Oh, sorry, I forgot this intersting paper, certifying the return of the PCO.

with a little gift. I would appreciate, if anybody could give some more information to Funcke .

It came in a box of Godet

and the back

I?ve got the following information to Funcke: Rangliste 1898, 1904 1. Kurhessisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 81 Regimentsarzt Oberstabsarzt Dr. Funcke, Roter Adler-Orden 4. Klasse, Dienstauszeichnungskreuz Ordensalmanach 1908/9 Funcke, Emil, Dr., Oberstabsarzt z.D. beim Landwehrbezirk Elberfeld, Varresbeckerstr. 80, geboren in Berlin 8.2.1847: KDM 79/71, Roter Adler-Orden 4. Klasse, Dienstauszeichnungskreuz, Centenarmedaille Rangliste 1909 Diensttuender Sanit?tsoffizier Landwehrbezirk Elberfeld Oberstabsarzt z.D. Dr. Funcke, Roter Adler-Orden 4. Klasse, Kronenorden 3. Klasse, Dienstauszeichnugnskreuz (m. d. U. d. aktiv. Sanit. Offiz.) Ehrenrangliste des ehemaligen Deutschen Heeres 1926 Generalarzt a.D. Dr. Funcke (IR 81) Leiter der milit. ?rztl. Abt. d. Versorg.Amt III AK Unfortunately his bar is uncomplete because of the separation of the PCO. Afterwards the ribbons where sewed unprofessional.

3. late WWI More information in : Theo Schwarzm?ller " Zwischen Kaiser und F?hrer" Generalfeldmarschall August von Mackensen, eine politische Biografie; dtv 2001; ISBN 3-423-30823-0 Greetings, Komtur.

2. about 1914 (?)

some earlier pics 1. Kommandeur der 1. Leibhusaren

Hallo Deruelle, thank you for showing this interesting foto, I?ve nevers seen this too. If you?ve got the names of the persons with a number on the foto, could you be so kind and post them? Greetings, Komtur.

Shame on me - I?m not very astonished. All the little signs: the bad quality of the pictures, the knew looking backside, the other rubbish sold by "hagekna41". But on the other hand 100% positive statements! I?m a beginner on Ebay - it has its own dynamic ... I have to learn I wonder why it make sense to "rebuilt" bars with original medals, when there is no profit? The single medals are worth about 200 Euro (Nimmergut-Katalog) and I paid about 150 Euro for this bar . The same stupid poeple destroy original bars I?m afraid I go slowly But thank you Saschaw for your comment

Infected by this little thread I was bidding on ebay successfully on the following sign of friendship between Saxony and Prussia Now it is arrived:

Schjerning in Spa. There are some more pics, but I will not enlarge this topic to much. Note on this last picture of Schjerning the rare decorations: the commander cross and star with swords of the royal house order of Hohenzollern and the red cross medal 1. class!

Gro?es Hauptquartier 1917, General-Intendant von Eisenhart-Rothe, Schjerning, Generalquartiermeister Hahndorff, General-Postmeister Dernizlaff (?)

Bad Homburg 26.3.1917

Wilhelm II and Schjerning visiting a military hospital 9.7.1916

Birthday of Wilhelm II, Charleville 27.1.1916

1. Wilhelm II and Schjerning in the first years of WWI 2. Schjerning in Charleville september 1915

laying of the foundation stone for the Kaiser Wilhelms-Akademie (educational institution for military medicals in Berlin) 10.6.1905, the Kaiser is doing the first hammerblow

laying of the foundation stone for the Kaiser Wilhelms-Akademie (educational institution for military medicals in Berlin) 10.6.1905

Schjerning about 1906