Komtur

Thank you Glenn for the heroic work of copying the "Stammliste der KWA" As a little gift for you the former owner of your book (see page 1 "aus dem Nachla? von O.G.A. Dr. Gro?heim"):

... (part 1), the same source as mentioned above (Schickert)

... and some more information about Grimm (part 1)

Here you are: Schickert 1895, "Die Milit?r?rztlichen Bildungsanstalten von ihrer Gr?ndung bis zur Gegenwart" Verlag Mittler&Sohn; The original is hard to find (I have one ), but there is a reprint of 1986 you can get easy e.g. on Abebooks.de. Greetings, Komtur.

And a pure Prussian bar of a poor Prussian (or as they told to be only thrifty)

That?s a Godet Logo on a case of a medal bar. The bar is after 1917.

the whole bar

the back (with the original matt surface)

Can?t help with pics of the above mentioned copies, but as some experienced collectors told me, this is an original of the time: the front (later newly varnished)

Yes, I?m really glad with it. It is quite similar to the one you catched before my nose on the last Thies-auction

some more details

some details

the back

The auction is over, and the pure Prussian is back home again. Unfortunately I havn?t got a clue of the Standard Operating Procedure So I need your help great masters of the rolls . I?m happy with this bar, but I?ll be more happy with a name to it. If someone want to send me to haeven, please find out, he was someone of the imperial medical service With regards, Komtur.

I?ve sended Weddigens sub filled up with dimes (Sorry, wait a moment for a pm)

Ebay can make you happy

The first class were given to high ranking persons involved with personal activity or with donations of money in the work of the red cross society. To be active there was en vogue for woman of the nobility. So you can find in the lists mentioned above the Herzogin von Anhalt, F?rstin zur Lippe, Gro?herzogin von Luxemburg, Erzherzogin von ?sterreich and so on. I found only one picture of a person with the 1st class: Generalstabsarzt der Armee Otto von Schjerning. The first class by Godet was not by the Generalordenskommission officially awarded. These were only the minted crosses by the Berliner M?nze! May be someone can show an original of these awarded crosses. But be careful, there are a lot of copies!

The back of the Godet cross (it is marked Godet 938, unfortunately not to be seen on this pic): Greetings, Komtur.

A red cross 1st class decoration by Godet:

I will add some figures too (if there are no two toes to step on) According to Elke Bannicke (Numismatisches Heft 3 1996) there were produced 260 red cross 1st class decorations in the Berliner M?nze between 1898 and 1921, these are the official awarded decorations. There are also different crosses made by Godet (see advertisement of Godet in a journal from 1918), probably on behalf of private persons. The number of 161 awarded 1st class crosses is mentioned in the Journal "Kyffh?user" 12/1937 for the first time. Peter Sauerwald counted in the "Preu?ische Ordensliste" (until 1913), in the "Deutscher Reichsanzeiger" and "K?niglich Preu?ischer Staatsanzeiger" (from 1913) 114 awards (Journal "Orden und Ehrenzeichen" 26/2003). Elke Bannicke/Lothar Tewes suppose (Journal "Orden und Ehrenzeichen" 37/2005), that the reason for the gap between produced and documented awarded figures is caused by spontaneous awardings of the Kaiser in the war, wich often can?t be found in official journals. They showed, that the produced and awarded numbers of crosses until 1914 is the same (about 70). The difference is only to be found in the war, when 190 crosses 1st class where produced in the Berliner M?nze and the documented number of awards is distinct lower (about 40). The production in the war of these 190 crosses is splitted in parts of single sets between 10 an 50 from 1914 to 1921. The economic situation of Germany allows in the war and after only to produce things, wich are needed. Therefore Bannicke/Tewes conclude, that all the 190 step by step in the war minted crosses are awarded afterwards. So the complete number of awarded red cross 1st class decoration must be about 260 (the number of produced crosses).

That?s what I like here, quick and substantial replies @ Rick and Heiko Yes, it is odd to give one order back and keep the other. I?m not sure, but it could be, that before 1918 all orders were withdrawn to award them again after repairing. After 1918 the only aim was to recollect the rare metal. About 12 g of silver wasn?t perhaps worth the procedure, but 12 g of gold was it? I hope to get some more information about this topic today. There is no envelope and adress to the paper. @ Glenn the first time I see the Stammliste of the Kaiser Wilhelms Akademie published in 1910. I was searching for it a few month. Decorated medicals are my special interest, so this book is essential for me. But what is the source of Funckes promotion? thanks and greetings, Komtur.

Oh, sorry, I forgot this intersting paper, certifying the return of the PCO.

with a little gift. I would appreciate, if anybody could give some more information to Funcke .

It came in a box of Godet

and the back