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I agree with Kim, probably a Northern Star , here is a similar box to a Northern Star Order

When I was looking through an old thread I saw another NCO with "Schwed Schwert Order " but most probably this means "svärdstecknet" or Royal sign of the Sword" , that makes it much more rare then an ordinary Sword Order!! see here http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=46774&st=0 OffzStellw Hermann Solcher , from Bayern Inf Lieb Rgt Christer

Super Kim ! I didn¨t know they even awarded this to foreigners . Very interesting I keep on looking in old "Statskalenders" really boring reading I promise But perfect to make you sleep ..... Andreas I send you a copy of the list Beautiful Photo by the way Christer

Hallo Andreas, I have some names to Navy , but It dosnt say which rank thay had when thay were awarded (all on the list are officers in 1918). I Sweden all awardedes with RSO was in fact officers , in 1850 a new class of the award (Sword Cross) was instituted to NCOs but I´m not sure if this lower class was ever awarded to foreigners??, The gold one is the RSO and the silver is the Sword Cross if you send me your email I can give you the list and you can see if you recognize any names. I will update it regulary and the goal is to make a complete list as possible all the best from Sweden Christer

sometimes a story is long and neverending .... The book about Aeroplanes wich landed in Sweden during the war years , was paid in advance but never came .... But I found the photo again after almost 1 year ! Yes I have to many things in my collection , quite clear . at least something good at the end Christer

Ready ! That is for now I have sent a list to Christophe , David and Daniel so far if anyone else is interested just let me now. I will send updates as soon as I get some more facts , right now it is 537 names in the file All the best from Sweden Christer

Aha Thanks Kim , now I can find some of the older ones from 1850-1870 possible I have just some Commanders 2nd class left now so this weekend the first version is complete I will mail it to everyone interested Its very interesting reading almost every Noble German seems to be in there Hold out for a few more days , Christer

The list goes on Now I have all Knight 1st ( RSO) and Knight 2nd (RSO 2kl) ready oldest entries is from 1896-1898 Next is the Commander class Orders , probably ready tomorrow, ( Christophe I got 16 names on Saxons with RSO 2kl , and 15 Saxon names with RSO ) Christer

Hmm , until now I haven't made any research on the before WW 1 awards , but the fist Sword Order was 26th September 1748 and it was 100 Officers from GenLt down to LtCol all Swedish at that time. Later that year 256 Majors, Captains and similar got the order making more than 350 Knights already the first year. The Sword Order was actually only for Swedish military personal , but already in 1749 it was awarded to a foreigner Then GenLt Count von Schlippenbach from Holland got a Commander class. in 1752 there was 6 foreign commander class holders, but Knight class was awarded first to a foreigner in 1753 and 1754 Col von Stralenheim and Major von Stralenheim , Then it took 10 years to the next Sword Knight : Russian Col Boretinsky 1764. And after that it took 40 !! years before an foerigner got a Knight Sword Order..... 1801 got Commander in Danish Navy Sten Bille a Knight Sword Order, Hessian Col Wildemouth 1803 , Bavarian Col von Reichenbach 1804 , Baden Col von Eck 1804. It was only after the fall of Napoleon that the Sword order started to be more common among foreigners ,then over 200 Knight class was awarded to Foreign officers , 22 Commander class and 19 Great Cross class. I am going to see what I can find on older awardees, probably everything is the Swedish archives , it just a matter of time to find it i will be back

Hallo all , thanks for the interest , I´m just ready with the RSO 1st Class list in Excel 250 names , I have only the year of award no dates so far but almost every first name wich could be of help. Normally the list say Preuss,, Sachsen , Bayern or Würtemberg. No mention of Army or Airforce but Navy is sometimes written out I will go on with 2nd class and the higher classes today , I don't know if I can enclose a exc file here ? Otherwise I send the file by email to anyone who is interested Best regards Christer

I dont know if its interesting but a lot of German Officers had the RSO and RSO2kl Knight of Sword Order 1st class and 2nd class maybe it could be some help when trying to indentify a ribbon bar ? here is a list over German officers and what year they got the award RSO von Abeken Hans Navy Com, 1905 von Abel Günther , Rittmeister 1919 von Arnim Joachim Hans Detlev, Navy Com Capt , 1912 Aur von Herrenkirchen Frithiof Wilhelm Rudolf Maria , Major , 1919 von Babo Lambert Karl Hugo , Capt 1919 Baltzer hermann , Navy Capt , 1918 von Barnekow Henning Marten Christoph , Preuss GenMaj 1902 Bartenstein Georg Ludwig bernhard , Preuss Maj 1908 von Baumbach Ludwig Gustolph Moritz , Preuss Col 1908 von Beaulieu-Marconnay Karl August Alexander Oliver , Preuss GenMaj 1907 Becker , Maj 1919 Beckh Albert Hermann Raimond , Bavaria Maj 1915 von Berge und Herrendorff Hans Joachim Lothar Hermann Maxmillian , Preuss LtCol 1899 Bertning Hans , Capt 1919 Bertram Otto Friedrich Ernst Richard , KapitänLeutn 1918 Blanc Eugen Ludwig , Bavaria LeutCol 1904 von Borcke Karl Ludwig Hermann , Preuss Col 1908 von Brandenstein Hans Carl Julius Curt, Col 1910 Bredenbreuker Friedrich , Preuss Capt 1912 von Broich Hans Karl , Preuss LeutnCol 1909 Buchholtz Carl August , Preuss LeutnCol 1894 von Buchwald Christian Gregers Kaspar , Preuss LeutnCol 1894 von Bulmerincq Ludwig Eduard Joachim , Preuss Capt 1908 von Burgsdorff Karl Georg Hans Leo , Preuss Capt 1908 von dem Bussche-Haddenhausen Clamor Otto Hans , Preuss Col 1911 von Bülow Gottfried August Karl friedrich , Preuss Col 1908 Böning Ferdinand Max Franz , Preuss Maj 1908 If anyone is interested I can continou with the rest Christer

Just a very short question , in Wikipedia (yes I know that is not the most thrustworthy place ) It says that he got the Finnish Liberty Cross 1st Class , I guess with his time in JG 54 it would be a real possibility but I cant find this anywhere else in writing and never seen any pics of him with a Liberty Cross. Anyone know the truth about this ? Christer

Thanks Raz, its always great to know some about the man behind the medals. Sometimes we collectors forget that there is a real story behind every one of the medals and ribbon bars in our collection. Your friend seems to have had a good life and now a piece of his history will be conserved in a far away country. Christer

Maybe , just maybe I found him There is at least a chance !! I found a book called " 1. Westfälischen Feldartillerie-Regiments nr 7 1816-1916 " printed in Berlin 1916 and there is a list of all that got awards 1914-1915 so only one year, there was of course three more years but an NCO with a EK I should have been quite unusual ? In this book there is ( 1) NCO with EKII+EK I Uoffz Niestegge award date 1/7 1915 . They doesn´t mention him in the book , but there must have been som real hard fighting in June 1915 ? I enclose the page where he his. At least one candidate Christer

christmas coming up , only 5 weeks to go ..... I wonder what I shall write on my wish list , but a Mecklenburg Cross 1st class or an Oldenburg FA Cross 1st would be sooooo nice .

Hi Raz0504 , The internet is fantastic , it really make the world small. Do you perhaps know what he did during WW II , and I suppose he was in Vietnam in 1960s ? I think I bought the ribbon bars from Australia through Ebay last year . And know they are in Sweden on the other side of the globe Christer

A interesting thing is that he got the MVK x mKr Feb 2nd 1920 !! Acording to Ancestry.com Christer

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_11_2011/post-3473-0-09193800-1320927493.jpgHi all , Just wonder if anyone has a really early document to show ? My earliest is to a Wilhelm Hulke from R FA Rgt 19 he got the FrontkämferKreuz 27th October 1934 living in Hannover and doc numbered H 419/34 . Sorry for the very very small pic but I have the doc on the forum in another thread so if anyone want see a bigger pic I will load it up for you. :blush:

:jumping: Great Pic ! And very well done to find this Gentleman in the ranklists Christer

Hallo Sachsen , Yes it was bought on German Ebay three years ago, I will see if I can find out where the seller came from I have never seen any documents or more photos and I don´t think there were any at the same auction. Why I belive its from the 1934-35 period is because the 7th ribbon , that is the "Ehrenkreuze für Frontkämpfer" and was inaugurated on July 13, 1934 by Reichspräsident Paul von Hindenburg for those soldiers of Imperial Germany who fought in World war one. So he was still alive in early 1930´s. If you have any photos that you would like to publish here , you can mail me at christer.daun@swipnet.se and I will help you. MFG Christer

fantastic! it is not often that à ribbon bar like this could be given à name, and it even more unusual that relatives hear of it The bar was bought on EBAY some years ago, and is probably from 1934-1935 . Where it has been between 1935 and 1995 is à mystery. if you have more info about him I would be grateful to hear about it. Best erfaras from the north of Europe Christer

The sun is shining and today I´m going to Amsterdam for a couple of days , just work but a small light in the dark was that I won an auction today . A finnish medal for bravery 1st class 1941 not unusual at all , but in this version its quite rare Its with a red cross on the front, given to doctors and nurses mostly. about 5000 was awarded during the 41-44 war. keep well all

Today I got a new award in the mail , a Bundesverdienstkreuz from West Germany 1957-1989 Not an unusual award but very nice an Junker made cross with its original box . And two real rare books !! First a book written by Lettow-Vorbeck about the war in Africa " Heia Safari" this book is very hard to find in Swedish, printed in 1921. And secondly another great find R von der Golz wrote a book in 1920 about the war in Finland and Baltic countries this and the other book I found in a small shop in Åland (an Swedish speaking Island between Finland and Sweden) a good day !

Tuesday I thought I was going to buy a Finnish Liberty Cross 3rd Class 1918 , a real scarce award Ok , since I didn´t want to raise the price before the last day I stayed cool and planned to give my bid on the way to Finland where I was going on a business trip tuesday-thursday . Yep , the cell phone died in the wrong moment and then I was on the plane , no connection and so on........ It went for 180 Euros wich was way too low ..... Lessons learned ? If you want it - Buy it , bid early , bid high and stay at home at your computer Nice weekend all

Thanks Jens ! Very Nice :cheers: