i agree 100%... '14 EK1 H.B.G. and it hase the saime core as joure hbg,,,with also a odd frame system,,, infakt the whole setup,,,frame ,pin system is not like 1914 type at all.. more 1939 ,,,but to bad to be original in my upiniun,,, jou cant seriusly take these crosses fore wreal,,,on every schow these things are left behind,, jou schuld leave them to in the future.. they are a bad investement... sorry kay