Ralph

Traced Medal indicates the award of the LSGC - it required 15 years service and war service for regulars did not count for double time. The 1953 Coronation Medal was only awarded to selected individuals (unlike the Golden Jubilee Medal which was awarded to ALL uniformed subjects who had served 5 years and were serving on the relevant date) so only a relatively few Service men received the 1953 award.

There is a recommendation for his AFC at The National Archives, Kew under reference AIR2/9616 Hi AE was awarded 11.01.45 announcd in Air Ministry Order 14 /1945

His London Gazette entry linked below http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/29508/supplements/2894

Would think this is his service record - downloadable from The National Archives http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7317647&queryType=1&resultcount=68

For the period in question the Rank of A/Conductor S+TC would indicate service in the Indian Army rather than the British so the MiC may not be at The National Archives.

He would have required a total 36 years service to qualify for a Bar to the LSGC so that would take us to 1950-1954. I have a feeling that he may have been commissioned - the wearing of miniatures by ORs during the 1940/1950s was not as prevalent then as it is now. If so then he would have to have served at least 30 of the 36 years in the ranks Would be a very nice full size group to have.

NO - it could be that the relevant medal was not available, the tailor just took a LSGC - The Miniatures were always purchased privately and never issued officially. I do not think the group is "made up" to impress but reflects the entitlement and was worn as such.

The BEM was awarded to enlisted ranks below the rank of Substantive Warrant officer. The WW2 medal entitlements indicates service at Home i.e. he did not appear to enter an active theatre of Operations. The LSGC indicates a regular with at least 18 years service - although this now becomes problematical as in order to qualify for the WW1 pair he must have enlisted by the latest 1918. THis would mean that he became entitled to the LSGC by 1936 = George Vth obverse. (There could have been an element of split service but I am not sure what previous service, if any, was allowed to be carried forward for the LSGC) Due to the combination I doubt if it would be possible to put a name to the group

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There would be no record of this badge at the National Archives, Kew - I think you might be thinking of the Roll for the Silver War Badge which was issued officially. The badge you have depicted is the membership badge of the OCA - Old Contemptibles Association - an association formed by those who were awarded the 1914 Star/Bar which has no "Official" standing - it is just an association of like minded persons.

The group comprises of Queens Sudan, QSA,KSA, LS+GC, Khedives Sudan Medal - a somewhat unusual combination for the AOC = particularly as he does not seem to be an Amourer.

Basically Yes, yes and Yes - some were seconded to the Indian/Pakistani Army , some retired/resigned and a lot were taken across into the British Army Ralph

The link below will give some brief info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Black_Star

The medal is missing a black star in the centre - it is the insignia of the French Colonial order Black Star of Benin. The ribbon should be a light blue - it appears to have faded

The ISM is granted on retirement from the Civil Service provided 25 years of efficient and loyal service has been rendered prior to retirement - it was not awarded after 25 years service but on actual retirement. Retirement age fro the Civil Service was normally 60 so it is relatively easy to calculate the man's age to see if he was e.g. old enough for WW1 service Ralph

His MC Citation from the LG 19.08.1916 (in case you have not got it) J6887 R.Q.M.S. Frederick Osborne, Bed. R. For conspicuous and consistent gallantry . .and good work throughout the campaign, notably when he went in advance of the Brigade ration carriers under very heavy fire, and saved many casualties by his skilful direction.

For the Army you had to enter a Theatre of War to be awarded the Victory Medal so Home service only would NOT have qualified him for the BWM/VM. It could be that he transferred to another Battalion at some time - the actual medal roll (rather than the MiC) might give an indication of the battalion he served in (WO329 sereis at The National Archives)

The Cap Badge is certainly that of a Fusilier regiment. He is shown in "The Times" as being given command ofthe 11th Btn Northumberland Fusiliesr on its Formation. In an entry in "The Times" dated 28th November 1935 he is shown as present at a dinner given by the Anglo-Swedish Society to honour the Crown Prince and Princess of Sweden's trip to England. THe Medal Index Card shows him as having received the 1014-15 Star, BWM,Victory medal giving his Regiment as 11th Northumberland Fusiliers. Unfortunately there is no entry for him in the 1920 or 1924 Officers Services.

It looks like it could be a Badge awarded by "The Ancient Order of Foresters", a friendly society formed in 1790 In 1845 the order had 1456 "Courts" (Lodges) with 65,909 Memebrs 1898 it had 4899 courts and 731,442 Members By the late 19th Century Forsetry had spread over the world, particularly to the British Colonies but also to the USA. I cannot post a photo of the emblems but a brief description is : A shield divided by a cross and has an escutcheon in the centre with a bugle horn and bows and arrows. In the top left quarter of the shiled is a pair of clasped hands, in the top right quarter three running stags, in the lower left quarter is a chevron, a lamb and flag above the chevron and a bugle horn below. In the lower left quarter is a quiver over a bow arrow and bugle horn. Above the shiled is a stag's head issuing out of a coronet. Flanking it are the figures of two forester (both male before 1892), one male on female thereafter. Ralph

As far as I know there is no complete record available on the open market - The Central Chancery of Orders and Knighthood may have the figures - but the GeorgeV issue continued until May 1937 so if you are interested upto the death of GeorgeV, the awards between his death and May 1937 would have to be deducted. A search of the LG would give you those details as well but that would be very time consuming The only figure I have is that 10,479 awards of the MBE were Gazetted upto February 1921. - but that does not include the ungazetted awards to Foreign Recipients. Ralph

A search on the National Archives shows 13,485 MiCs to the QMAAC and they were certainly awarded the BWM/VM

You can check via the Ancestry website - they have records upto about "P" I believe on- line. The National Archives has all the WW1 Service records that are still in exisitence (provided they were discharged from the Army prior to 1922) on microfilm but NOT on-line. Unfortunately though a large amount of the service records were destroyed due to enemy action in 1940 and a lot of the ones that remained were badly damaged as well.

I would treat the Mullen roll with caution in regards to the KGL entries - If you compare my copies of the roll at the National Archives you will see quite a few discrepancies: e.g. Meyer Conrad - on the mauscript roll he has clasps Vitorria,Pyrenees,Nivelle,Orthes.Toulouse - Mullen mentions he has 9 clasps Muller Henry - There is a 9 Clasp recipient on the roll and in his boook but he fails to mention the MUller Henry 3 clasps who is on the roll but not in his book. Muller, Hermann - 6 clasps on the roll, 3 mentioned in his book Meyer Freidrich Cpl, on the roll as 10 clasps in his book as 9 clasps there is another Meyer, Friedrich, Cpl on the roll with 3 clasps but does not appear in his book (and I only pulled up the one page on the roll!!) Ralph (P.s. in repsonse to the previous query Mullen compiled a roll of the recipients of the Military General Service Medal)

No - South East Coast of the United KIngdom - origianlly comprising of 5 towns Hastings, Romney,Hyth ,Dover and Sandwich - it was an ancient confederation from the middle ages formed by these town - They are now no longer confederated but the term has stuck in certain usage.

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