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I think Ahmet Ali was the first African Ottoman naval pilot in the world in 1916. His grandmother was from Borno,Nigeria. He has another photo above.

I don't think it is Turkish. As far as I know Turkish troops only had Turkish Flag, North Star badges and Tropic Lightning. ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/koremadalyasi/ ) As you know the figures on the badges may look like anything. In order to find this you have to check badges of other countries except the USA 8th Army. I posted the badges of all 8th Army : 1. 8 ARMY: Pacific Victors , 1 Corps "Eye Corps" , 9 Corps: Pride of the Pacific , 10 Corps: X Corps,1 Cavalry Division: "First Team" 2. 25 Infantry Division "Tropic Lightning" , 24 Division "Victory Division", 7 Division: '"Hourglass Division", "Bayonet Division", "California Division, 3 Division: "Rock of the Marne, 2 Division: "Indianhead" Regards Demir

Hi, I posted the Osmani Order photos to show the difference on both sides; writing and design. If you compare the original post with Mr. Avşar's Osmani Order with brilliants you can see the difference in the workmanship, finishing, the design on the drum, flags etc. I still insist that it is a recently made one. For the one with the swords the Order was genuine but the sabers have been added in a later date this can be understood from the entry point of the saber pieces. The holes have been cut larger in order to attach the saber pieces, in the original ones the holes are not this large. I think Mr. Avşar has also indicated this in one of his previous threads in this forum also. Regards Demir

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Nice photo. I have a question: The photo has to be taken after the Palestine tour in order to be awarded with the TWM, but you say it was taken in the training camp. Can you open this abb. :Res.Jg.Btl.11 Thanks

Col. Franz von Papen - Chief of Staff of the Yıldırım Group of Armies in Palestine. He also has 3rd degree Mecidi Order with Crossed Sabers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Papen

Here are 2 pictures of Osmani Order. You can easily see the difference. Obverse: writing Reverse: The drums and flags The one with sabers is also a fake. But to be sure check the above differences. Please also see the threads about fake Osmani and Mecidi Orders in this forum. Best wishes Demir

It is a modern fake

1.ATATURK’s MOSELEUM and The War of Independence Museum - ANITKABIR – ANKARA Address: Anıtkabir-ANKARA http://www.tsk.tr/8_faydali_bilgiler/8_1_anitkabir_ing/atatukvekurtulussavasimuzesi.html 2. WAR OF INDEPENDENCE MUSEUM – 1. TBMM Binası Address: Fevzi Paşa Mah. Cumhuriyet Bulvarı No:1, Ulus - Ankara Turkey‎ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Independence_Museum 3. MILITARY MUSEUM IN ISTANBUL - İSTANBUL ASKERİ MÜZESİ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_Military_Museum Address: Askeri Müze ve Kültür Sitesi Komutanlığı, Valikonağı Caddesi Harbiye, Şişli, İstanbul 4. Istanbul Naval Museum – Deniz Müzesi a. http://www.denizmuzeleri.tsk.tr/en/ (all Naval Museums in Turkey) b. http://www.denizmuzeleri.tsk.tr/en/idmk/ (İstanbul) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_Naval_Museum Address: Hayrettin İskelesi Sok. 80690 Beşiktaş, Istanbul, Turkey 5. Istanbul Aviation Museum - Hava Müzesi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_Aviation_Museum Address: Yeşilköy, 34149 Bakırköy/İstanbul, Turkey

How could you find it, it is so hard to see. Bravo.

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1. First Naval Aeroplane Squad 2. Naval Pilot wearing Turkish and German Naval Pilot badges. Liyakat (Merit) Medal with Crossed Sabres and Donanma Ä°ane (Donation to build Marine Force) Medal. He has the special insignia of the Naval Pilots on his hat. 3. Marine Pilot Captain Kamil Mehmet. Wearing Turkish and Ottoman Naval Pilot badges and also Liyakat (Merit) Medal with Crossed Sabres and the Turkish War Medal on his left chest 4. Turkish Naval Pilots. The first African origin pilot at the back "Arap Ahmet"

Hi, Here is the official design of the Turkish Naval Pilot Badge. And some photos of the Turkish Naval Pilots

1 st degree Mecidie Order (breast) with sash and at the end of the sash Mecidie order, Turkish uniform Admiral Sir Douglas Austin Gamble KCVO (8 November 1856 - 23 May 1934) was a Royal Navy officer who commanded the 4th Battle Squadron. Gamble became Naval Advisor to the Turkish Government in 1909 and Commander of the 6th Cruiser Squadron in 1910.[1]He then served in World War I as Commander of the 4th Battle Squadron with his flag in the battleship HMS Benbow from 1914[3] before joining the Naval War Staff at the Admiralty in 1915 and retiring in 1917. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Gamble

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Thanks for the information. I will be following the auction. Best wishes Demir

2 Bulgarian Officers with the TWM

Sorry long time ago it was on ebay, in November.

Thanks and best wishes Demir

Thanks for the reply. No I don't have it. I have seen this in eby, just tried to find out whether it is a known company. Thanks and a Happy New Year Best wishes Demir

Hi Paul, Unfortunately it is not mine, owned by Mr. Ayhan Özcan from my (facebook) Ottoman Medals group. ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/osmanlimadalyalari/ ) Hello Lars, Thanks for the lovely miniature. It is beautiful. Sorry no bow at all. May I post your miniature into my Ottoman Medals Group under the Sefkat Order? All the best and a Happy New Year Demir

I got the permission from the owner. Please indicate that it is from the collection of Mr. Ayhan Ozcan- Turkey. Best wishes

Hi, I checked the link you provided but there is nothing under Turkey and most of the countries. I have to ask the owner of the order for his permission. Thanks