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Hello, The UN Korean War medal has 2 versions. The first issue has inscription şn small letters and the second version has bigger letters as shown below. The size of the English inscription " FOR SERVICE IN / DEFENCE OF THE / PRINCIPLES OF THE / CHARTER OF THE / UNITED NATIONS" in the reverse of the medal differs. In the first issues above mentioned inscription is in 2 mm high letters (left in the picture) and in the second later issues 2.5 mm. high. Best wishes Demir Erman
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Hi, The English version of the UN Korean War medal has 2 issues. The size of the English inscription " FOR SERVICE IN / DEFENCE OF THE / PRINCIPLES OF THE / CHARTER OF THE / UNITED NATIONS" in the reverse of the medal differs. In the first issues above mentioned inscription is in 2 mm high letters (left in the picture) and in the second later issues 2.5 mm. high. Best wishes Demir Erman
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UN Medals awarded for the KOREAN WAR and my collection
demir replied to demir's topic in South East & East Asia
Thanks to JBFloyd and Peter Monohan's threads and the web page http://www.korean-wa...com/index.shtml created by J.P.Willsher, participants, language and the amount of the UN Korean War medals issued are : KOREAN WAR PARTICIPANTS 1 Australian, 2 Belgium, 3 Canada, 4 Colombia, 5 Ethiopia, 6 France, 7 Greece, 8 Luxembourg, 9 The Netherlands, 10 New Zealand, 11 The Philippines, 12 SouthAfrica, 13 South Korea, 14 Thailand, 15 Turkey, 16 UnitedKingdom, 17 USA MEDICAL HELP 18 Denmark; hospital ship "Jutlandia" 19 India; a mobile army surgical hospital 20 Italy sent its Itallian Red Cross Hospital 68. 21 Norway; It had a hospital staff of 59 and administrative staff of 47. 22 Sweden; The Swedish government authorized the dispatch of a 200-bed mobile field hospital. The UN Korean War Medals are issued in these languages and amounts: AMHARIC, DUTCH, ENGLISH, FRENCH, GREEK, ITALIAN, KOREAN, SPANISH, THAI and TURKISH 1 AMHARIC : Ethiopia 5,650 Issued 2 DUTCH : Netherlands 5,795 issued. 3 ENGLISH : Australia, Canada, Denmark, India, New Zealand, Norway, Philippines, Sweden, South Africa, United Kingdom, United States of America (First issue reverse letters: 2.1mm high letters on five lines and Second issue in 2.5mm high letters on five lines. ) 2,761,732 issued. 4 FRENCH : France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Canada (French Speaking) 16,851 issued. 5 GREEK : Greece 9,000 issued. 6 ITALIAN : Italy 131 issued. 7 KOREAN : Korea 1,222,000 issued. 8 SPANISH : Colombia 1,300 issued. 9 THAI : Thailand 10,648 issued. 10 TURKISH : Turkey 33,696 issued. -
LANGUAGE in the UN KOREAN WAR MEDALS
demir replied to demir's topic in Rest of the World: Militaria & History
Thanks to JBFloyd and Peter Monohan's threads and the web page of http://www.korean-wa...com/index.shtml created by J.P. Willsher participants, language and the amount of the UN Korean War medals are : KOREAN WAR PARTICIPANTS 1 Australian, 2 Belgium, 3 Canada, 4 Colombia, 5 Ethiopia, 6 France, 7 Greece, 8 Luxembourg, 9 The Netherlands, 10 New Zealand, 11 The Philippines, 12 SouthAfrica, 13 South Korea, 14 Thailand, 15 Turkey, 16 UnitedKingdom, 17 USA MEDICAL HELP 18 Denmark; hospital ship "Jutlandia" 19 India; a mobile army surgical hospital 20 Italy; Itallian Red Cross Hospital 68. 21 Norway; hospital staff of 59 and administrative staff of 47. 22 Sweden; 200-bed mobile field hospital. The UN Korean War Medals are issued in these languages and amounts: AMHARIC, DUTCH, ENGLISH, FRENCH, GREEK, ITALIAN, KOREAN, SPANISH, THAI OR TURKISH 1 AMHARIC : Ethiopia 5,650 Issued 2 DUTCH : Netherlands 5,795 issued. 3 ENGLISH : Australia, Canada, Denmark, India, New Zealand, Norway, Philippines, Sweden, South Africa, United Kingdom, United States of America (in the reverse: first issue, letters: 2.1mm high letters on five lines and second issue in 2.5mm high letters on five lines. ) 2,761,732 issued. 4 FRENCH : France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Canada (French Speaking) 16,851 issued. 5 GREEK : Greece 9,000 issued. 6 ITALIAN : Italy 131 issued. 7 KOREAN : Korea 1,222,000 issued. 8 SPANISH : Colombia 1,300 issued. 9 THAI : Thailand 10,648 issued. 10 TURKISH : Turkey 33,696 issued. -
LANGUAGE in the UN KOREAN WAR MEDALS
demir replied to demir's topic in Rest of the World: Militaria & History
Thanks Peter, The page answered all my questions. Best wishes Demir Erman -
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GENTLEMEN, HERE IS THE REGULATION ISSUED FOR THE WAR MEDAL and CHANGES MADE LATER: REGULATION FOR WAR MEDAL A) 14 Rebiulahir 1333 / 16 Subat 1330 / 1.3.1915 1. A bronze war medal is established for those who showed bravery and usefulness in the war. 2. War Medal can be awarded to those persons who show bravery and usefulness without differentiating rank and title. These persons can be nationals of the Ottoman Empire or allied forces and navies and voluntary nurses and civilians within the armies and navies. 3. There is only one class of War Medal and it can be worn in formal uniform four fingers under the right breast on the jacket without a ribbon. 4. War Medal can be worn on any kind of dress. When the Medal is not worn, the soldiers can worn a 2 cm red ribbon from the second hole in the tunic button and civilians on their collar. 5. A certificate is given with the War Medal without charge. 6. War medal will be inherited by the children and family but can not be worn by them. 7. Those who do not receive the bronze War Medal are not eligible for "participation to war certificate" for their silver and gold Liyakat and Imtiyaz medals. 8. Ministers of War and Finance are responsible for the implementation of this regulation. 9. This regulation is effective from 11 Ramazan 1332 / 21 Temmuz 1330 / 3.8.1914 B) This Regulation had been changed on 10 Zilkadde 1333 / 6 Eylul 1331 / 19.9.1915 : A sentence is added into the Fourth article of the Regulation (above A) dated 16 Subat 1330 / 1.3.1915: 1. When the Medal is awarded to combatants, the ribbon of the War Medal will be red in the middle and white on the sides, and when awarded to non-combatants the ribbon will be white in the middle and red on the sides. (The dimensions of the ribbon for combantants are: red 29 mm., with 5 mm. white stripes, 2.5 mm. from each edge. For non-combatants, the colors are reversed.) 2. This is effective from 22 Ramazan 1333 / 21 Temmuz 1331 / 3.8.1915. 3. Minister of War is responsible for the implementation of this regulation. C) 11 days later on 21 Zilkadde 1333 or 17 Eylul 1331 or 30.9.1915 the word BRONZE is erased from the articles 1, 5 and 7 (original regulation.above A). The pictures of the certificate (BERAT) mentioned in Article 5 (above A) and of the COMBATANT and NON-COMBATANT ribbons (from my collection - very recently acquired) mentioned in the Change to the Regulation (above B). The certificate for the TWM was signed by the Deputy Supreme Commander and Minister of War Enver Pasa. TWM certificate (BERAT) is the only medal certificate signed by somebody else other then the Sultan. (Also see TerryG's tread http://gmic.co.uk/in...showtopic=32129 )
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Hello Brian, Nice Turkish made TWM. Ottomans did not issued any pins or miniatures. This is a German or Austrian made pin. Best wishes Demir Erman
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5. tinnie (front far right) Showing Dardanalles Strait below. top from left the pictures of Field Marshal Liman Von Sanders (Commander of the Ottoman 5th Army), Enver Paşa (Gen.)(Deputy Supreme Commander of the Ottoman Army and Minister of War), Cevad Paşa (Gen.)( in charge of the Ottoman Defence Batteries on Dardanalles)
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4. 2 Lead Flat figures (Left in front of the bullets) The 30mm flat lead figures show Professor Dr. Ernst Gustav von Bergmann, the name giver of the medical academy of the German Federal Armed Forces in Munich, in his uniform as a highest rank Bavarian surgeon general in the year 1880. The second figure with Ottoman hat (fez) shows Professor Dr. Manuel Julius " Pascha" Wieting, who treated the wounded ones of the Burenkrieges in Hamburg Eppendorf and later entrusts Gulhane Military Hospital in Istanbul, restructured Turkish medical corps with the line of the imperial-Ottoman institute for advanced training. He wears the peace uniform of a Turkish major general around 1910.
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DEAR FRIENDS, HERE ARE SOME CLOSE-UPS OF SOME ARTICLES: 1. THE RIBBON BAR AND TWM (the medal between two boxes and in the front of soldiers) SET :
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Gentlemen, As is known according to the UN official web site : "The Korean Operation was established between the period 1950 to 1954. The ribbon bears alternate narrow stripes of white and blue, the colours of the UN. Personnel were eligible to receive the medal after a period of 30 days service in the Mission. The following countries provided troops to this Mission: Australia, Belgium, Canada, Columbia (UN doesn't know the correct word - Republic of Colombia), Denmark, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, the Kingdom of the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, the Philippines, South Africa, Sweden, Thailand, Turkey, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America." (India and South Korea Missing) Some countries did get English version medals others their own languages. Taking this into consideration, is this a correct list: AMHARIC : Ethiopia, DUTCH : Netherlands, (Belgium ? Maybe both Dutch and French) ENGLISH : Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Union of South Africa, United Kingdom, the United States, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, the Philippines, FRENCH : France, Belgium, Luxembourg, GREEK : Greece, ITALIAN : Italy, SANSKRIT: India, KOREAN : Korea, SPANISH : Colombia, THAI :Thailand, TURKISH : Turkey Thanks for your help Demir Erman PS: My UN Korean War Collection: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=31830&st=0
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UN Medals awarded for the KOREAN WAR and my collection
demir replied to demir's topic in South East & East Asia
Gentlemen, As you know according to the UN official web site : "The Korean Operation was established between the period 1950 to 1954. The ribbon bears alternate narrow stripes of white and blue, the colours of the UN. Personnel were eligible to receive the medal after a period of 30 days service in the Mission. The following countries provided troops to this Mission: Australia, Belgium, Canada, Columbia (COLOMBIA), Denmark, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, the Kingdom of the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, the Philippines, South Africa, Sweden, Thailand, Turkey, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America." (India and South Korea Missing) Some countries did get English version medals others their own languages. Taking this into consideration, is this a correct list: AMHARIC : Ethiopia, DUTCH : Netherlands, (Belgium ? Maybe both Dutch and French) ENGLISH : Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Union of South Africa, United Kingdom, the United States, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, the Philippines, FRENCH : France, Belgium, Luxembourg, GREEK : Greece, ITALIAN : Italy, SANSKRIT: India, KOREAN : Korea, SPANISH : Colombia, THAI :Thailand, TURKISH : Turkey Thanks for your help Demir Erman -
Thanks Kim, The reason I asked is; as you may know the UN official web page: http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/sites/medals/ says: " The wording shown may be in English, French, Spanish, Danish , Greek, Italian, Dutch, Swedish, Sanskrit (I think this is mistake instead Aramhic for Ethiopia or may be they issued a few now for the Indian troops) or Turkish " (Thai version was not included and I have one in my collection : http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=31830) I did not see Danish and Swedish, even the pictures. Thanks:beer: Demir Erman
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Hello Kim, Lovely ribbon bar. Can you please post the reverse picture of the Swedish issue UN Korean War Medal. Thanks Demir Erman
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Hello Great Dane, This is a lovely trio. Is it possible to post the reverse picture. I don't have Danish, Swedish,Spanish and Italian versions of the Un Medal. Thanks Demir Erman
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Gentlemen, This year is the 95th anniversary of the Gallipoli/Canakkale war. The Turkish War Medal - Canakkale Madalyasi - Eiserner Halbmond - Iron Crescent - Gallipoli Star was given in this war against the invading British and French Forces. TWM is the entry level gallantry award, ranking below the silver Liyakat Medal. Here are the pictures of my TWM collection. In the first picture you can see different makes of the TWM, miniatures and ribbons. Please also note that the pine cone and the rifle bullets on the left back side of the picture are from Lone Pine/Gallipoli where one of the most severe battles took place with the ANZACs. After the landing (1915, 25th of April) The German ribbon just behind the Turkish made medal ( in the front middle, behind it another Turkish made medal ) has blood stains on it (left corner). On the front far left is the one (with a wreath surrounding the star) I mentioned in my earlier threads. The second picture is my Turkish lead soldier collection. The third picture is the KNIGHTs of the middle ages. Hope you enjoy the collection, best wishes. Demir Erman
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Hello Gentlemen, Austrian company Brother SCHNEIDER has done a beautiful job for creating these fancy medals for Gallipoli. I hope that whoever bought these for a TWM from Bruder at least had deserved it in the war. Here is another variation which I have, but this one has no Br. Schneider sign on it. So I can not say who the maker is, but it resembles the one our friend "Ottomanmedals" has. As you know this medal had been my Avatar since I joined the Club. Best wishes Demir Erman
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Turkey My first Turkish War Star but it's not nickel plated
demir replied to Brian Wolfe's topic in Türkiye
Hi Brian, Wellcome to the TWM fan club. This is a typical, I would say standard issue BB&Co. Best wishes demir -
LOVELY PIECE. HARD TO FIND SAMPLE. I HOPE I FIND A SIMILAR ONE TO BUY. THIS ONE AND THE ONE MAHONI HAVE POSTED EARLIER HAS 2 DIFFERENCES (as far as I see from the pictures).: 1. MAHONI TWM TUGRA is solid and you can not see the red enamel between the lines 2. ROCKY TWM reverse is very smooth and see the red enamel between the Tugra's lines (Inner egg,tugs,fringes,arms and stand - http://gmic.co.uk/in...showtopic=40277 )
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Hi Terry, A very nice looking one I think Austrian made. Best wishes demir