Ed_Haynes

Paul gives a good overview. As a Naik in the immediate postwar period, he would probably have had wartime service. The 36th went overseas in WWI to China in Oct/Nov 1914, where half the battalion was engaged with the 2nd New South Wales Borderers in the capture of Tsingtao. Then to Mesopotamia to relieve the siege at Kut. Was in the 37th Brigade (Brig. F. J. Fowler) of the 3rd Indian Division (Maj-Gen. H. d'U. Keary). On 12 April 1916, the 3rd Division attacked Beit Aiessa; on the 17th, the main position was taken by the 7th and 9th Brigades. 36th: 5 Apr 1916: 13 BO, 18 IO, 639 OR 16 Apr 1916: 9 BO, 7 IO, 428 OR (33.7% casualties) The unit suffered major casualties and had to be withdrawn to the lines of communication. After recuperation, to the North Persian Force. So the group is probably missing a 1914-15 Star trio. LSGCs are in Army Orders in the Gazette of India and finding them is a true nightmare. Figuring what happened to the records of disbanded regiments is difficult and it is even more difficult to determine what happened to the records of regiments that went to Pakistan in 1947. If the records survive (unlikely, I fear) they'd still be with the (some?) regiment. A lovely pair, incomplete groups are common for Indian soldiers.

Yes, the Labor Hero entries are interesting. See, for example, the three that live with me: Suuigiyn Gombo Banzragch Es Gombo Lodoikhuu The less-than-exact match between the "Sky Blue Bible's" serial numbering and the award numbers makes it frustratingly confusing !!

Just to give you an idea what is in the book, a rough table of contents: Hero - p. 4 - 58 recipients Labor Hero - p. 22 - 381 recipients Title of "People's" - p. 139 - 97 recipients Title of Merit - p. 182 - 1662 recipients Cosmonaut Badge - p. 712 - 2 recipients Honorary Freeman - p. 714 - 1 recipient (of course) State Prize (etc.) - p. 715 - 254 recipients

A really nice group, and on old (fragile) ribbons. An expert can advise on research, but it is often possible.

A posthumous OPW 2 Junior Sergeant Ivan Stephanovich Sheblikin, 62nd Self-Propelled Artillery Division

Thanks for this, Rick!

Thanks in advance for assistance.

And, finally.

Up the chain of command

Part 2. Precis from the seller:

Recommendation, part 1.

Award record card 2 As usual, no translations/summaries/anything . . .

Award record card 1

The award.

Photo (by Disney?).

Booklet with an incredibly bizarre photo which may be a later addition or a total fake (purchased on that stipulation).

Glory III #305987

Thanks, Ferdinand!

Thanks, 'slava', I appreciate this. I feel better in that the things you picked up on (all of them) were the same as what had bothered me. I might just be learning . . . . I also recognise there is a thin line between educating ourselves and educating the fakers (so they do it better next time).

Yes, an Indian. Let me get what information I can for you.

See http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5086&st=18 and other various threads. I need to put up a more detailed commentary.

While I consider myself just learning in such matters, "slava", that was my "gut" feeling too. What markers prompt you to say this with such confidence?

It is my understanding that a lot gets sold to Russia, some to collectors with limited English, some to non-collectors (= investors). Also, even we on this sub-forum, seem to have lost a number of our 'regulars'. I do know that things in Ulanbaatar are dry dry DRY (and I am not speaking of the winter).

This could be the slogan for the Mongolian collecting community? There may be some good news soon(ish).

Lovely, Kevin! Thanks for posting. The domed plastic seems common in so many countries.