Ed_Haynes

Chris Kempton's 'Loyalty and Honour': The Indian Army September 1939-August 1947, part I, Divisions (ISBN 0-85420-288-5), pp. 15-26, gives a good run-down on the 4th Indian Divisions. The various brigades are covered in part II and the regiments in part III.

Yes . . . "hmmm" indeed. Assembly-line production?

I'd hope that "reconstructing" this ribbon bar won't involve the wanton destruction of a real and historic ribbon bar?

I believe there are some photos and other information in the hotel's rather extensive archives.

My father, a ex-high school teacher of history who had managed during that same depression to go on to law school, was called in when the German (and Italian and Japanese) diplomatic staff were interned in the Greenbrier Hotel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greenbrier in White Sulphur Springs, WV, in the days after 7 December 1941. His two years of college German (even from a good university) weren't of much help, but he was the best sort of person they had available in those crazy days. By the time he joined the US Navy early in the spring of 1942 (having passed up the undesirable pre-draft chance to join the Army and not passed the color blindness test for the Air Corps [which condition would eventually bump him from duty on an LST for the North African landings, otherwise I'd not be here...]), these guys at The Greenbrier had been swapped for corresponding US diplomats. Diplomatic immunity meant something in those days.

True, true. But for most collectors -- especially "military collectors" -- this stuff is trash. As I sort through materials that live with me, updating the long-untouched "catalogue", this is the sort of thing that adds the most life. I am, after all, a FULL-GROUP whore. Were there interest, I'd add some of these documents to the appropriate groups. But I don't want to bore or distract anyone.

Still, a nice badge. And happy to have the correct identification.

I suspect the Italians were trying to represent, however inaccurately and clumsily, the name of the medal? Why do you think this would NOT have been the case?

Random good luck on research. Sometimes, you luck out. Went in the army at age 23 (unmarried). Note she was a waitress post-war.

As always, observations and comments are welcomed. Thanks!

And the translation: AWARD LIST 1. Last Name, name and patronymic Mal?kova Irina Martynovna 2. Rank Private 3. Position, unit Driver of the 806th Tallinn Self-propelled Artillery Regiment 4. Is recommended for the Order of the ? RED STAR ? 5. Year of birth 1920 6. Nationality Russian 7. Party membership Member of the Komsomol 8. Participation in the civil war and other military actions aimed at the defense of the USSR (where and when) Leningrad Front 01.44 ? 12.44, 1st Ukrainian Front 12.44 9. Wounds or contusions received during the Patriotic War Does not have 10. In the Red Army since 1943 11. Drafted by what district military commissariat City Krasnoyarsk 12. Previous awards Medal ?FOR COMBAT SERVICES?, 11.44 13. Permanent home address (of the prospective awardee or his/her family) City Krasnoyarsk, Perenson Street, House № 41, Apartment № 5. Father: Mal?kov Martyn Leont?evich I. Brief description of personal feat During the fight for the liberation of the Polish Republic from the German Invaders, Comrade MAL?KOVA, while on the position of a repair shop type ?A? driver, demonstrated herself as a brave and courageous soldier, and took care about her vehicle. Comrade MAL?KOVA followed the military frontline, delivered her car to malfunctioning military vehicles, coping with any tactically difficult situations and energetically participated in the repairing process. For the entire combat period, Comrade MAL?KOVA?s vehicle did not fall behind military vehicles due to technical malfunctioning. For the military services to the Motherland, Comrade MAL?KOVA deserves the governmental award Order of the ?RED STAR?. Commander of the 806th Tallinn Self-propelled Artillery Regiment Major (Signature) / Levikov / ?10? February 1945 Awarded with the Government Award Order of the ?RED STAR? Commander of the Armored and Mechanized Forces 59th Army Colonel (Signed) / V.Volkov / ?23? February 1945

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Her MMM (#1000262) has gone missing (anyone?) and hasn't been researched. Her Red Star recommendation:

And translation: AWARD CARD Order booklet A 726550 1. Last Name Mal?kova 2. Name and Patronymic Irina Martynovna 3. Military Rank Private 4. Sex Female 5. Year of Birth 1920 6. Place of Birth Krasnoyarsk Provice, Daursk District, Village Komzhikh 7. Party Membership n/a 8. Education 4 Classes 9. Nationality Russian 10. In the Red Army since 7.1943 till 8.1945 11. Place of service (name of the unit) and duty position at time of awarding 806th Tallinn Self-propelled Artillery Regiment, 59th Army ? Driver 12. Place of service and duty position at current time: Krasnoyarsk, 703th Fabrik, Senior Waiter 13. Home address of the awardee: Krasnoyarsk Kachenskaya Street 58, Apt.12 14. Record of all awards presented: Name of Orders, Medals Serial Number Numbers of Documents Awarder For Combat Service 1000262 Temp. Cert. T ? 599459 Order of the 806th Self-propelled Artillery Regiment, Armored and Mechanized Forces 59th Army № 06/N of 6.12.44 Red Star 1354180 Temp. Cert. E ? 555232 Order of the 806th Self-propelled Artillery Regiment, Armored and Mechanized Forces of 59th Army № 05/N of 23.2.45 Signature of the awardee (signed) Malkova Correctness of the data and signature of awardee attested by: Stalin Military District Commissariat Senior Lieutenant of Administrative Service (signed) 20 February 1947 / Starovatov/

And back.

Record Card, front

To Private Irina Martynovna Malakova, 806th Tallinn Self-propelled Artillery Regiment, 59th Army. Maybe not the most exciting Red Star ever (but at least it isn't long service). And it may say something about how these were awarded, to whom, for what.

Many of these are in the OMSA database, thanks to our friends at Morton & Eden. From the ANS sales. For example:

Interesting, and well done. (To the extent that mere mortals can read this chicken-scratching.)

I doubt it, as this seems to be the fantasy/fiction "survival" of the order.

Something like the ISM would often be issued with a pin, as it would be worn alone, loose, or at least not mounted on a bar, being a civil award. That is part of what makes Ralph's suggestion ring true.

Yes, Jason. That is good technology to have, especially if you do it without the chemicals that they sometimes want you to add.

Thanks very much, Sergey! Very interesting!!

This touches, I think, on a point that has confused me for some time. OK, I may confuse easily. But: -- Given group "G" with awards "A, B, C, D". -- It is possible to say that these awards were given to individual "X". -- Cannot individuals "Y" or "Z" also have been given these awards? Would research reveal the non-unique entitlement seen in group "G? -- How can one say that group "G" belongs to individual "X" and not to the (unknown?) others? As I distantly recall from Logic 101, this situation had a name. A parallel case: Seeing an unnamed British WWII trio of MC, 1939-45 Star, and War Medal gives a group that may have been awarded to Capt. "M". But also to "N", "O", "P", "Q", and a host of others? On what basis can one assert it is "M"'s?? Tell me what I am missing by being so confused?