Daniel Krause
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After thinking again and again I come with the following theory: - EK2 is clear Now 3 commander classes as unofficial ?Kleindekoration?: - Hohenzollern Commander with X - in the published rolls - W?rttemberg Crown Order commander with X - in the soon-published Wtbg roll - Bayern MVO 2 with X with incorrect silver swords - in the published rolls One more war decoration - Hessen Bravery Medal Another inofficial ?Kleindekoration? - Preu?. Crown Order 2nd class The others seems to be o.k. as: - Hindenburg cross - RAO3 bow missing - RAO4 with crown - W?rttemberg Friedrich knight 1st class - Preu?. XXV - Preu?. Centenary - ?st. MVK 3 with war dec. Under this circumstances it can indeed be the bar of MajGen Johannes Aloys Schabel. Best regards Daniel
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... and not to forget his 4th Prussian Lifesaving award, the ONLY Hohenzollern knights cross on the lifesaving ribbon earned as full colonel in WW1. There wer only some dozend guys who received repeat awards. Veith was the ONLY Prussian with 3, late 4 decoratioins on that ribbon. I wonder, either this guy was that brave that he really put himself in the greatest dangers to save peoples lifes or he was surrounden by fools who always put themself in danger. Would loooove to see a pic of our good old Veith. Best regards Daniel
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For the repeat awards concerung acts of lifesaving were for sure no written regulations existing. The Lifesaving medal was the "basic" one for every rank and status anmd it was already a very high decoration despite of his size, material and look. For repeat award were no higher classes available like for the Saxon medal in 3 classes. So if somebody did a 2nd outstandig act he received the next decoration who fittet his rank and status on the lifesaving ribbon. We had already discussions about that here in the forum and even exact award numbers of that kind of decorations were already sorted out. Best regards Daniel
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Hi Sascha, what the hell are You playing with ribbon bars??????????????????????????? Hurry up and send them to MEEEEEE!! The Schwarzburg one has ID potential. The Prussian with the white-black ribbon is absolutely common. 10 awards in that class in WW1 are everything else but nothing rare. With the right tools and rolls and ranklists it costs 10 minutes to tell the name. Best regards Daniel
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Every officer had to serve at least 3 years in th "frontline" before he could apply for the War Academy. There they took around 1910 the best 120 Lt / 1st Lt per Year. You had 4 times a chance to apply. After the 3 years in the War Academy the General staff took the best 20 of a year to a 2-3 years command to the General staff. The best ones from them were taken directly over after their command and promoted to Captain. The other ones who did not qualify for the General staff went normally in the Adjutant service, Division and later Corps level. Nearly all the General staffers and Adjutants served as well for a time in nearly every level of frontline service like their "mortal" colleagues. Every Captain got Company, every Major a Bataillon, every Colonel a Regiment and a Major General a brigade. The higher promotions are quite easy. You did not have to serve until whatever retirement age as it is nowadays in Germany, You could always retire with the pension You earned until then. The big mass of frontline officers retired as Captain or Major after around 25 Years of service. For the frontline guys who stayed in I would say 6-8 years as Major, 3-4 as Half-Colonel, 2 as full Colonel. General staffer got promoted around 2 years earlier to LtCol and maybe 1 year earlier to Col. From that grade it could go very fast, all 2 years a promotion until the rank of General der Infanterie / Artillerie / Kavallerie. This rank could easily last for 8 Years and was regularly the end of th line. There are just a handful of guys who made Generaloberst or Field Marshal. Best regards Daniel
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o.k., as I see it is SOLD to Your Father I can come with the name: Korvettenkapit?n Eugen Schoch, born 1879 With the right tools 5 minutes to ID him and 10 more to prove it. DOA 08 Navy 14 Navy 18 Roth Baden 14-18 Markus Bodeux phantastic Navy Verordnungsblatt work in the German SDA Best regards Daniel
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Hi Friends, I want to bring this theme back to top and to ask again for assistance. Who can show Hohenzollern documents? I?m especially interested in late 1918 awards and awards to guys with more-than-common names like M?ller or Lehmann. At the moment I have already more than 300 additional names than Willi Geile had in his first Hohenzollern roll from the mid-90ies. Best regards Daniel