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This would be the 4th dimension to medal collecting. Great display!

David, it is definetly possible. The saxon manufacturers had very specific characteristics making those decorations. Andreas

It is a weekly circular like a newspaper reflecting on items of interest for the military. You will find the latest list of medal recipients, adds for having them mounted etc. The listing of the newly honored soldiers was many times the basis for some statistics on orders and medals for WWI. They stopped printing the Ranklists, yet published those news in the Milit?r-Wochenblatt.

I just love the part where it says "...the well known author and collector". What else did he do with his new company?

One of the definite detail one can determine the difference between the fake and the real silver gilt ones is the laurel leaf inbetween the cross arms. The real ones are extremly 3-dimensional layered. The fake ones are completly flat, just 2 dimensional.

This is a great thread. Lots of good stuff.

Believe me, I was, too, when I saw this bar the first time arround....

It is unlikely but true. This was one of Tony Colson's bars. Indeed the real deal !!!! There were 834 medals in silver awarded between 1861 and 1875.

Oops, typo I typed "to" instead of "you", sorry.

Most amazing. I am glad you got this historial important group in the end.

At last the ugliest. The quality hit list goes certanly from Scharffenberg to Roesner to Glaser & Sohn. Glaser made some really low quality but cheap pieces towards the end of WWI. One will always find those knight badges first and second class. They were also known for the golden grand cross stars!, yet the officers cross is something I have seen only once. Here it is: [attachmentid=34685][attachmentid=34686] [attachmentid=34687]

This would be a quite rare knight 1st class with crown. Since the crown was only issued 1901 the periode for its award was not long. 664 Silver gilt ones and 33 golden ones have been awarded. The actual number of surviving pieces must be a lot lower, since most of the crown recipients received the swords to the knight 1st with crown during WWI. Hence, the decorations had to be returned and given out again with swords. This example is one of the earlier Scharffenberg pieces. They also ecist with the 3 piece medaillon. [attachmentid=34683]

Here a very nice Godet made Grand Cross star 1st model: [attachmentid=34682]

...and the reverse: [attachmentid=34528] notice: no "S" on needle since both have real golden applications.

Also very interesting are the design phases of the grand cross stars. Here an star bady from 1840-50 on the right and the regular 1900 star body on the left. The early one was definetly adapted from a 1st model piece, meaning, they used the silver body and exchanged the center: [attachmentid=34527]

Dear Claudio, thank you very much for your kind words. I totally agree, seeing is good, but having those decorations in hand is essential. I have always tried to attend as many auctions, medal fairs, collectors meetings as possible - and you are right, it is much easier to do this in Europe. Being in the US for some time now makes it a bit more difficult to meet with our kind of people. I still make a point of going to the annual OMSA meeting and at least to the SOS in Louisville, KY. The last one is actually driving distance for me (6-7 hours one way ). It is always worth it. Not just from seeing things, but more important for the networking portion. Thos Albert pictures are unfortunately all from my old photo archive. All is gone - the price of college those days. Anyway, here is a better picture of the "Kleinkreuz mit Schwertern" by Rothe from the 1870/71 war. Nicely dressed up on a trifold ribbon: [attachmentid=34518]

Those are two very nice late WWI Godet pieces. Here the Rose made cross with the seperate griffin: [attachmentid=34511]

the reverses: [attachmentid=34510]

Here a commander star with swords comparision (from my old photo archive): [attachmentid=34509] Left the earlier type (still WWI) with the medaillon disk being two parts and right the later type with the medaillon disk being in one part. Both have silver gilt applications. The "S" on the needle indicates that.

This thread gets really Roesner heavy. Lets change to the 1st model for a minute. A Commander or Grand Cross with swords, made by Moritz Elimeyer: [attachmentid=34316][attachmentid=34317] I never had stars in my old collection with swords. Maybe somebody else can help?

This was quicker then I could add the following: "Just kidding. A bicycle messenger was no easy job" Anybody who has remotly done some off-road biking can imaging that lead in the air takes all the fun away from biking. But come on, cut me some slack here. It sounds funny as being German reading this in German: Radfahrer!

Correct, but Prussia and Bavaria were never to close....one would assume that this kind of work would go the patriotic way.

So Ludwig Weiss got his MVK 3 with swords because of: "T?chtigkeit und Unerschrockenheit als Radfahrer der Brigade", at least this is what it says on the Vorschlagliste?! No wonder they turned him down for the 1st class , and no wonder the 3rd class is so common. P.S.: in english:"Proficiency and intrepidness as bicyclist of the brigade" Just kidding. A bicycle messenger was no easy job

That would be very interesting. Early marketing !!!? Like: "I can only shoot down enemy aircraft flying an Albatros fighter plane !!!" It still strikes me that the manufacturer of this badge is Poellath in Schrobenhausen, BAVARIA. Why would Albatros, being situated in Johannistal by Berlin, outsource in China, pardon, Bavaria?

Same here. What an ordeal it was to take pictures with SRL cameras and light tent....the results are horrific compared to today's technology. I will still try to scan some of those picture for this thread. It is getting quite interesting.