IrishGunner

I like this one...

Thanks for the info on the helmets...

Ahhh, logic... Indeed, the Philippines were an "unincorporated" territory - meaning they were merely a possession and not considered an integral part of the United States (and therefore under the jurisdiction of the Consitution). So, in that logic - they weren't the US at all and should have their own medal. Actually, the Philippine Autonomy Act was passed in 1916, which basically indicated the US intent to allow the Philippines to become independent at some point. So, in that logic... Ahhh, logic...

Found this... From the 1922 edition of The Numismatist, Vol 35 http://books.google.com/books?id=RpcUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA554&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U2EYddaAz0nE4lOKgE19PVYPjkHkA&ci=115%2C633%2C816%2C445&edge=0 Have also read that only 6,000 were issued... While it wasn't referenced as such, that may come from Laslo.

It's been my impression, that the US Army has always had relatively practical "field" headgear... So, I've always wondered why the US Army adopted these helmets... Do you know the history of why these were adopted? How long were they in use?

This is a nice 1870/71 document. Out of curiosity, why is the 2nd Bavarian Jäger a favorite unit...? (PS: If you ever come across an artillery 1870/71 doc - remember me...)

Of course, we can't conclusively rule out "some medal of a chamber of industry and commerce, or something similar," but do you have any examples? There are, indeed, precedents for ribbons of Bavarian medals in this non-military direction to be something other than the usual Bayern blau/weiss - for example the 1910 Agricultural Jubilee Medal... Obviously, this isn't the medal on the bar - I provide it only as an example that Bavaria used other color ribbons - including green/red. But I can't find any Bavarian medal with the subject ribbon. Given the white, green red of our subject ribbon - the usual suspects would be Bulgarian, Hungary, or Italy. Of those, the closest is the Bulgarian Civil Merit and it seems to make sense on this bar - considering the lack of a MVK and the presence of the fireman's medal. In my neophyte opinion, of course. Nonetheless, there is still room for doubt ad you are correct - the word "must" is too strong. But the Bulgarian Civil Merit is the "most" likely suspect presented so far...

I agree with Uwe that it's the Bulgarian Order for Civil Merit... Variation in what appears to be proportions could simply be manufactuer's variation. It comes in six (6) classes and one of the lower classes would make sense for this bar... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders,_decorations,_and_medals_of_Bulgaria Here's a 4. Class that sold on bulgariamedals:

Because of the fireman's medal, I thought it was similar to the Austria Hungary PRO DEO ET PATRIA Veteran's Medal non-combatant ribbon.... But not that one either because the green and red are separated by white. We just had a discussion of this medal: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/56668-curious-medal-bar-and-a-question/

This was a mainly Polish cemetery, but the name Kapusta could be Czech, Slovak or Polish. Coincidentally, the word "Kapusta" means "cabbage" in Polish. Great photo actually. Amazing find as Chris states...

would have rubbed shoulders with a bunch of future "higher" guys.... Among other parts... Sorry, couldn't resist...

Yea, some photos of his MGs would definitely help get this back on topic...

Yea, I can see how she'd fall in love with the MG - it's has a hard hot barrel when it really gets going. You on the other hand...

Look at that photo... Even in death, this guy has you beat.

Sorry, Chris, but I think this guy is "The Man"

Welcome, George... We hate to be the Grinch... But hang around and it will be better...

Three of my Wagners... PS: Nice EKs

Well, since I have no clue...I'll make an "obvious" guess... the HK w/o swords is incorrect on this bar.

So, out of curiosity then... Have you seen the medal w/swords mounted on a non-combatant ribbon? Or would that simply be "fantasy"?

So.... the answer is: Wilhemskreuz is the only non-combatant award with swords. Service in the homeland vice at the front? Wilhelmskreuz mit Schwertern – für Verdienste im Krieg in der Heimat

A non-combatant's bar... EK2 non-cbt ribbon, HK without swords, Austro-Hungarian Pro deo Patria non-cbt medal ribbon.. Except shouldn't the Wuerttemburg Wilhelmskreuz be "ohne Schwerter"?

Wasn't Himmler in this Freikorps unit even though he never saw WWI service?

Thanks Brian - I've learned something. Best thing about GMIC - expert replies to questions.