Vatjan

Apparantly, there are 2 variations: - the whole of the obverse is goldplated - only the hammer, scroll BNMAU and flag are goldplated Here's mine

Apparantly lists do exist at the President's office, but they are kept confidential, not even Dr Battushig was granted access. Jan

Well, Brezhnev got 558, so who knows????

Very strange that this would be a Uighur inscription type, since it was awarded in 1947 Polar stars, aaargh Jan

It is an outstanding Agri Worker badge but not a "national" awarded one but rather one for the southern Dornogobi Province. Jan

And some more, if you want to see one in detail, just ask

Best Transporter: The recipient soldered a Youth Organization badge to the back to convert it to a screwback

Best miner and Sharpshooter Type 1

Here are a few of mine First of: Distinguished Policeman Type 1 and 60th anniv of the Militia (Police)

Last but not least

Award booklet the sequel

And his award booklet

Combat service medals

Here's my only (incomplete) group. OPS (T3V1 n? 88) and 2 CSM's to Khorloo Jamba 2nd OPS is missing

Thanks guys, it's unfortunately not mine. I'll post a scan of the reverse in the weekend Jan

Here's a military/combat/whatever merit order, where the former owner erased the number and the dealer just added his, to try and sell it more easily It was a local-local dealer who did this, before it got in the hands of a local-international dealer who sold it on ebay, admitting what it was (if you asked about it) Jan

I'm afraid this might be a case of fraud, Bob. I've heard of dealers adding numbers to legitimate unnumbered awards, because they think it might sell better. You should try to compare the calligraphy of your numbers with these of another 30000+ award. See if it compares or not. Maybe, it is a replacement award for a lost one, with the old number, but that would be the first time one is seen, but with Mongolian ... who knows? Jan

The ultimate collector's wet dream: 1 hour of free "shopping" in a vault...somewhere... filled to the brim with goodies

Hi Ed, This might interest you: 11.07.2005 CHINGGIS DECORATION PRESENTED TO THE FIRST PRESIDENT Ulaanbaatar, /MONTSAME/. The President of Mongolia, Mr. N.Enkhbayar has presented the Chinggis decoration to the first Mongolian President P.Ochirbat. On June 24, 2005, the former President Mr. N.Bagabandi issued an order to present the decoration to Mr. P.Ochirbat for his valuable contribution to the strengthening the independence, sovereignty, and the national solidarity of Mongolia, the approval of the new Mongolian Constitution, the socio-economic reforms, the establishment of humanitarian and democratic civil society, the development of the national culture and tradition, and the promotion of foreign relations. This was the first ever presentation of the Chinggis decoration named as the Great Chinggis Khan created for the 800th anniversary of the Great Mongol Empire. B. Bolortuya Also, in the list you compiled, there are a few mistakes that are copied from one of the first versions of a similar list I have compiled. I found out they were mistakes later, changed it on my list, but were apparantly never corrected on list of the person you got the info from. I will go into deeper detail later, but I can already say, that the type 2.1 of the Honorary Combat medal, (pinback / handengraved), is in my opinion inexistant and rather a type 1 with a new (repaired) pinback suspension. I've seen only 1 such award and the serial number makes no sense for a pinback, whereas Mongolian serial number ranges are usually fairly consistant. Anyway, thumbs up for the good work Jan

OUCH indeed, but then again, they are pretty scarce, in my 4 years of collecting, I've seen less than 10 Type 1's and less than 5 of the Cyrillc type 3's. With "seen" I mean for sale, or in someones collection or in a book. Imagine the price of a soviet award or a TR award with less than 10 known existing pieces. Jan

I must say I have seen several, at least 20, on ebay over the last 2-3 years I think that they are really not that uncommon, I'm sure you'll be able to find them within the next couple of months. There has indeed been a sale from the state reserves, which means that what you call uniform stuff, ORCB 1's 2's 3's and 4's is fairly easily available at the moment, it will not be so in a few months. Then the uniform stuff will again be Polar stars and 1970's ORCB and OMM and ORBL's, as it was up untill about 6 months ago. Keep in mind this is a late award, issued since the 1970's, which means less medals will be lost on the vast steppes of Mongolia, then let's say for a 1950's award. Just my 2 cents Jan

Hi guys, Can any of you tell me what this badge is. Or at least give a translation of the inscription. Thanks in advance Jan

As someone who has started out collecting Mongolian orders about 4 years ago, after having fallen in love with the country during a 1 month trip (from which I did not bring home any awards, mind you, still kicking myself for that) I would have to say, 18 months ago was a good time stock up on Mongolian awards. They have already doubled in price since. I paid my ORCB's less than 150 US a piece, I got my SB for 600 US. I don't have any of the older orders though, because I did not have 600 US to buy a Red banner of Military Valour, or 2500 US to buy a Military valour then. I'll never be able to afford them now. Prices might rise even more, I do agree, but the golden age is already long gone. Jan

It's not really post Dr B, since it's number A6.4 in his book. The main variations of this title are : -Choibalsan State prize, with Choibalsan's portrait 1945-1962 (A6.1) -State prize with old state seal 1962-1970 (A6.2-3) -State prize with 1970's state seal and 10 "curls" since 1970(A6.4) -State prize with 1970's state seal and 14 "curls" (Herfurth M48) Jan

They can be found mounted in rows, but they are very difficult to find. The best I saw was a three ribbon bar with a large pin on the back.