Josef Rietveld

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I believe, same happend to me in december 2004 on ebay.com. An old iron crown second class before 1867 without ribbon of course in gold. by the way, the boxed second class is a real beauty pictures from the same type 3rd class in Gold haynau

KO = K?nigliches M?nzamt Abteilung Orden Stuttgart Royal Mint Departement for Orders in Stuttgart haynau

Order of the iron crown One of my allt-times-favorites haynau

I think so too and there is lot of empty space on his turban haynau

@ulstermann I agree with you. The Kriegskreuz f?r Zivilverdienste i a very welldone deoration in matters of design (a bit of art deco or art noveau) and craftmanship. Originally it was intended to habe a cross on a ribbon. The austrian authorities of the old reich favoured the classic black-yellow ribbon that stood for the habsburg-dynasty and could be traced back to the emperor of the holy roman empire of german nation in the early middleages. But the hungarians refused this proposal and demanded the hungarian colours (red-white-green) to be on the ribbon. as a result the ribbon would have been black-yellow-red-white and green. to avoid this colour-mishmash the cross was designed as pin-back. You see what were the problems in austria-hungary arround 1916/17 The same problem, in a different implementation, occurred when emperor Franz Josef died in November 1916. all medals had to be changed to he image of the new emperor Charles I (IVth of hungary). the hungarians demanded to change the inscription of the bavery medals backsiede from the german 'DER TAPFERKEIT' to the Latin 'FORTITUDINI' , because hungarian soldiers who fought for tzhe hungarian king and kingdom shouldn't be decorated with medals with german inscription. what means the same. the alternative would have been medals in german AND hungarian, unthinkable for the army. so again Latin was chosen as compromise. that is also the reason why the Kriegskreuz f?r Zivilverdienste bears an latin inscription. regards haynau

You are right, it is in fact a very intersting case. I haven't seen one in other collections so far. haynau

Austria Milit?rverdienstkreuze old types from 1860 to ca. 1875

@stogie looks like a lyakat-medal. Better pics from the medals backside would be appreciated. Funny, because the bar dates clearly before 1914 (at least after 1897). as far as i remember the lyakat-medal was founded in 1891. haynau

@Kev A beautifull one-man-show. Ate there swords on the Medjidie-Grandcross? If so, please make closer shots. better pics of the bar would be much appreciated aswell haynau

He had only two decorations. The Army-Cross or socalled kanonenkreuz 1813/14 and the Commanders Cross of the Order of St. George of the Reunion (Sicilly). Possibly for the 1821-campaign. He just missed the Sevicecrosses which were founded in 1849. His Grandfather Joseph Reisinger was Feldstuck-Hauptmann and was nobled in 1731 by Charles VI. His father Maximillian von Reisinger died as General-Major. In 1845 the family was enobled to Freiherrn-Stand (baron), based on a regulation from Empress Maria Theresia from 1759 that after 30-years-of-service an officer could pled for an nobility-"upgrade". Feldmarschall-Leutnant von Reisinger was married to Josepha, maiden-name Gabriel, who gave birt to six children. IF ANYBODY HAS AN PRINT of Maximillian von Reisinger I would be very pleased to get PN. haynau

The set is made of silver and hallmarked with the viennas crest and the numbers 1 7 8 6 arround the crest for the year 1786. There are two makers marks "CF" and "IS". Only fork and spoon are hallmarked, the knife, as it was made of silver and steel (blade) has no marks. Overall length is abbout 17 cm. the complete set has a weight of 155 gramms. all handles show an engraved "R" for Reisinger. Biographic Details: the full name of the family is Reising von Reisinger. Maximilian von Reisinger, born 1776, entered service on the 9th of June 1790 and became ensign in the 12th k.k. Infantry-Regiment. He saw action at the campaigns from 1792 to 1815 and 1821 (naples?), took part in the siege of Mainz 1794 and the battles of Wagram (5/6th July 1809) and Aspern (21/22th May 1809) where he distinguished himself and was wounded. On 20th of April 1826 he was promoted to General-Major, 1833 to Feldmarschall-Leutnant (General-Lieutenant). 1840 he became holder of the 18th Infantery Regiment. He died on 28th of february 1848. To be continued haynau

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gents, I put this topic here because i don't know whre to put it else. Some Months ago i had the oportunity to buy a cutlery-set dating from end of the 18th century via ebay. The auction wasn't welldone - bad pictures, no measures and the auction was put in the wrong category (militaria, that is the reason why i found it When the set arrived i recognised the beauty of the set and sent a second mail to seller asking if he has any background-information. He replied that was from his family and belonged to his great-great-grandfather Moritz von Reisinger who was high-ranking-officer in the austria Army. I show you the pictures first, then I will write what i found out on Moritz von Reisinger. haynau

Djedi, you are absolutely right. i can't be an austrian MVK haynau

Bonjour Djedi, the left decoration is defintely an old medjidie 4th or 5th class of the criemea type, the decoration to the right could be an austrian milit?rverdienstkreuz old type. the cross dating from then 1860ies with war decoration (oakleaves) on an early more-violett-than-red trifold ribbon. haynau

This pic, now on sale in ebay germany, shows IMHO, what could be a turkish made pilots badge from the way the wings are fixed on the badge. but maybe the wings are a little bit to broad for a turkish piece. this gentleman also shows an Laykat (imityaz? but why is than there no lyakat) -medal with sabers gentlemen, what do you think? haynau EBAY

congratulations, a cased beauty with documents. If didn't look at detlevs offers this time, but if, i would have bought ist aswell. haynau

@ulsterman, congratulations i was waiting whole day for the solution of this mystery. i'am collecting orders and decorations and i didn't see it. Respect haynau

Sorry hendrik, it took some time. The artist who created the medal was Richard Placht (he died 1962). I'am still searching for the makers mark WA. as soon as i get to know who is behind this letters i will do a posting. regards haynau PS: you are right the miniature is a beauty but i think of selling it. maybe i will post it in the gentlemans club sale room.

gentlemen, some contribution to this theme. Knightscross Franz-Josefs-Orden in gilded bronze and Miniaturechain and Decoration to wear on a frockcoat or swallowtail. both hallmarked and made in 750/1000-Gold (18 carat). Markers Mark: Vincenz Mayer und S?hne. purchased in scotland. haynau

Dou you really think it is an oddity? For me it makes sense. all signum laudis awarded for service during wartime were on the war ribbon (kriegsband). the attached swords show in one look if the medal was awarded for service or service in frontline. same with the milit?rverdienstkreuz that was awarded with wardecoration during WW1. haynau