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Hi hendrik, nice items. The bars for subsequent awards for bravery-medals and Military Merit Medals (Signum Laudis) were made of Silver. The bars for officers bravery-medals and Signum Laudis were normally made of silver (hallmarks), the bars for the non-officers were silver-plated or made of silvercolured material. Military Merit Crosses and the orders of the iron crown IIIrd class and the Leopolds Knights cross had always GOLD Bars (gold plated). @Hendrik if swords were awarded the have been fixed directly on the bar. so the Merit Medal you showed is a kind of forgers. someone took the double bar and put it on aribbon with swords. the correct bar with swords is shown on the picture i add. Golden Bars were also possible for the Goldenes Verdienstkreuz mit Krone (GVKrmK) . But ONLY for this Rank. If a NCO or medic or officer received an Golden Verdienstkreuz did action that would bring a second award of the GVKrmK he was awarded the crown. Same with Silbernes Verdienstkreuz or Silbernes Verdienstkreuz mit der Krone. regards Haynau PS: the marks on the kriegskreuz f?r zivilverdienste stand IMHO for A = Hauptm?nzamt, FR = Rothe

@Rick, funny isn't it? There is no marker mark. Unfortunately I don't know if this reinforcement-adapations were standard by the producers or if it was done seperately because the owner was a little bit anxious. haynau

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Do the helmets shown on the 'vorl?ufige besitzeugnis' fit to the date august 1915? I don't know very much abbout imperial headgear, but from my point of view these helmets look more like 1916/17. the same with the stielhandgranate. The pictures soldiers show Sturmtrupp equipment. When were the first german stormtroops formed in WWI? regards haynau

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Hi Chris, I don't know what is a '101' is. But I can identify your medjidies. The left one is a 4th Class (Officer rank, golden center medaillon with thugra), the right one a 5th Class (knights rank, silver center medaillon). From my point of view both decorations are european, probably french made. The belong to the socalled crimea-type and date from the 1850/60ies. The differences to later pieces: a small corpus with , in comparism to the total size, large center medaillon and the suspension. it ist made of gold. on the backside the jewellers scratched of the gold to reduce the production costs. the 5-ray-star is fixed to the halfmoon on ONLY 2 Points. (4 points with later pieces). NO turkish hallmarks like shah-mark (purity) or roayl mint-marks. I add a picture of two commanders (3rd class) of the same type (one damaged, they are slightly different. one has timmy wholes in the rays of the corpus). The commander in between is a typical WW1-piece haynau

@Stogieman, there are some strange deatails about this group offered on ebay germany. The name Ferdinand Bernhardt was written on all three boxes. But the medals in the boxes don't fit to ONE persons life. -Austria Medal fpr the Danish-Prussian-Austrian War 1864 -Signum Memorieae Medal Franz Josef 1898 -Officersclass Nishan-Ifthikar - Christophe dates the tunisian order in the Reign of Sidi Ahmed 1919-1942 How can decorations that date from 1864-1929 be awarded to one single man ? Mathematically it is possible but I can't belive it. All boxes are made the same style and must date, if the awards belong to one person, from 1929. But the look defintely like made in the 1870ies or 80es. So please, can somebody again check the iftikar-order. ist must be from an earlier tunisian bey. haynau

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This beautifull breaststar of the one-class Alexander Newsky-Order walked through my collection in 2005 . I mean i bought it for little money. Only weeks ago some other collector made an offer i could not resist and the Newsky was gone. I have been told the star is of european, probably french manufacture and dates arround 1850/60. No markers mark, no hallmarks made of silver and gold haynau

@HulliganRS, the backside of my herder-badge has the engraving "3255" I assume this i a higher S/N haynau PS. I have a second one at home. i'll check it's number aswell

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Hi Bob. i bought a Distinguished Herdsmans Badge a couple of years ago just because the design and the award-criteria are very uncommon and a perfect example for the socialistic attitude towards decorations. My type looks very different from yours (see pics). Did i buy a modern counterfeit or are there various types known. regards haynau

Normally the sell the lower classes for 30 to 50 euro haynau

Hi Paul in comparism to the awarded number of crosses they are quite cheap. at ebay-germany the sell one at the moment. auction ends in about an hour. LINK regards haynau PS: by the way, the explanations come from the AH-Site i mentioned above. You don't have to know everything, but you have to know whre to find things.

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Hi Paul, i'll try to give a little summary: The Crosses were created by the local government of the province of Carinthia (Landesregierung) on the 4th of November 1919. Classes: - allgemeines K?rntner Kreuz f?r Verdienst (common cross for merit) - on a ribbon - allgemeines K?rntner Kreuz f?r Tapferkeit (common cross for bravery) - on a ribbon - besonderes K?rntner Kreuz f?r Verdienst (special cross for merit) - pin-back - besonderes K?rntner Kreuz f?r Tapferkeit (special cross for bravery) - pin-back The common cross for bravery was given to all members of a Volkswehr-Alarm- or Heimwehr-unit with a minimum of 28 days of membership who had taken active part on some battles. The cross were given for less than 28 days (or those who haven't seen any battles) when the perticular man was commander of a unit and/or was had received wounds by enemy-fire. The special cross for bravery was given for outstanding acts of bravery and/or leading the troops - the winner must have received the common cross before! The common cross for merit was given to all members of a Volkswehr-Alarm- or Heimwehr- unit with a minimum of 28 days membership but for non-combatants and for all other who had supported the fightings in any ways like work or goods or medical help or propaganda etc. The special cross for merit was given or outstanding organising or supplying to non-combatants - the winners must have received the common cross before! The winning of any cross for bravery excepted the award of any cross of merit! The Austrians had about 200 killed and 800 wounded - the award postmortem was not allowed. The cross itself was made of zinc with the inscription on the obverse: K?rntner Freiheitskampf 1918-1919 and in the case of the Bravery Medal F?r Tapferkeit on the reverse side. The ribbon was yellow-red-white. Like the Iron Cross, the General Cross was worn from a ribbon on the tunic front whereas the Special Cross was worn without a ribbon on the left breast. Carinthian Crosses remained the property of the awardee or his family on the death of the holder. At last here to total numbers of awards: common cross bravery - 12.932 common cross merit - 4.072 special cross bravery - 1.009 special cross merit - 241 regards haynau SOURCE: http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/

Funny, this expressions i would have understood. normaly i look up difficult vocabulary in my dictionary. but at the moment i can't find the dam... book. anyway, living is learning and my english needs a permanent brush-up. so gents it's up to me to say thank you for lesson. haynau

Thanks David, i'll try to rememeber pronge and eylet as usefull vocabulary for coming discussions. haynau

Whatever that means.. I've got to apologize but for that sentence my english isn't good enough. a lot of time went by since i have done my A-levels. So the easiest way is shoiwing the ribbons backside. regards haynau PS: later on you can explain prong/eyelet ... to me

Austrian-made Trifold-Ribbon for the Imityaz-Medal (Silver or gold) with Crossed Swords and 1915-Bar. Unfortunately the medal is missing, but it much easier to get then a Imityaz-Trifold haynau