The Prussian

Hello! A nice tunic! Thanks for showing! Until july 1915 the Train-formatzions had the number of the Train-Bataillon upon the shoulder straps (Garde and 1-21 and 3 bavarians). Since July 21, 1915 they had to wear the numbers of the division. Since April 21, 1917 the unites recieved their own numbers. So here we have a Train column of the 89th Inf.Div. (until summer 1915), or if the tunic is from after april 1917 a Train column N°89. A Train-column with that number could be a supply column, supply park, depot supply column, remount depot, field bakery column, field butchery column or equal unizs of the lines of communication

Hello! The rank Generaloberst was introduced in 1854. From 1854-1911 he had three pips. A Generaloberst mit dem Rang als Generalfeldmarschall had three pips and crossed fieldmarshall´s batons. Since 1911 a Generaloberst mit dem Rang eines Generaleldmarschalls had four pips. They served in the inner circle of the kings or of the Kaiser. Mostly they were noble, because there was a prussian tradition, that noble officers couldn´t became a Feldmarshall! But this tradition ended in 1871... As far as I know, they didn´t wear a fieldmarshall´s baton. Even Kaiser Wilhelm I wore these shoulder boards (3 pips and crossed batons)!

Congrats, mate! THAT is a nice group! Chapeau!

Hello Demir! Thanks a lot. That's why I asked, because you told me that according to my star...

That's an argument... I think both stars are the same. Are there any differences between war and postwar stars?

Hello Andreas! Thanks a lot! What makes you sure with the date please?

Hello Paul! It´s a turkish one. But I´m not sure, if it´s a WW1 or a post-war production. Here is my one (I´ve been told, it´s a post-war issue):

I wait for the photo! Your collection must be phantastic!

That sounds great! Again congrats to the Krug! So it will be clear, that it´s an original one!

A friend of mine wrote: the lid and pushers do not fit at all to a jug of the Bavarian infantry from this time. The coat of arms on the pusher is a rather washed-out Bavarian state coat of arms, on which, however, the royal crown is missing. Also the pictures look to me like the pictures, which I know from - quite well made - repro jugs from the 70s and 80s. Even if Ludwig II. today has a "fairytale-like" meaning, one would have attached in this time only a portrait of the current ruler as a ground picture. I therefore find it strange that the jug from 1899 shows a picture of Ludwig II. A portrait of Prince Regent Luitpold would actually belong there. The mentally ill Otto I would probably not have been depicted. And the Prince Regent was already quite admired and transfigured at that time. Chris should try to find out whether the name and the regiment are painted on or printed on. If they were painted on, the piece could possibly be real, but it would certainly have had a new lid at some point. A jug of the Infantry Body Regiment would also express the pride of having served in that particular regiment through a special illustration and not through a standard illustration that would fit any infantry regiment. But you can only say that with ultimate consistency once you have held the good piece in your hand. 180 € are a bit too expensive for that, such a repro jug is usually traded between 50 and 100 € today. The page "Reservistenkrugsammler.de" is good, because the texts and pictures are written by Wolfgang Gult, who is known to me as THE expert and reservist jug collector from the Gesellschaft für Heereskunde Did you ask Wolfgang Gult?

That's possible. Or maybe it's a Stein from before 86 painted in 97?

But that doesn´t explain the picture of Ludwig II. http://www.reservistenkrugsammler.de/Details.php What did the expert say acording to Ludwigs picture?

Hello Chris! Glad you didn´t smash it! Congrats to the Krug! I´m happy with you that it´s an original one! I just wonder about the picture of Ludwig..., but if the man said, it´s ok, it´ll be ok! He is a specialist

Do you have a photo from the inside of the lid?

Strange...

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The german Post works in two velocities. Slowly and very slowly...

Did you recieve it, Chris?

It´s a pity, that no-one else said something to your Krug... Hopefully more when it arrives...

I wish you luck! But you´re right. It´s better to watch it "in hands" than "on photos". I have three Steins from my regiment (Feldart.Rgt.43). Two from ebay for between 250 and 300 each and one together with a Reservistenbild from the same person!

I really hope you are right! Another thing that makes me wonder is the price. An original one from Leibregiment for under 200€... a little bit cheap, isn´t it? But I don´t want to make it bad. Let´s wait til it arrives! What would you say to the king? I´m really not sure, who he is Here is another site: http://www.reservistenkrug.de/replikas.html

What about the picture inside the Stein? Ludwig II died in 1886: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_II_of_Bavaria Otto didn´t rule because of illness: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_of_Bavaria Luitpold? : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luitpold,_Prince_Regent_of_Bavaria What, if the Stein is a fake? A have seen faked Steins with faked names before... A lot of fakes had the picture of Ludwig II: http://www.reservistenkrugsammler.de/Kopien_Faelschungen.php "Gerne wird auch das Portrait vom Bayernkönig Ludwig II. als Bodenbild bei Kopien verwendet. " (The portrait of the Bavarian King Ludwig II is also often used as a base picture for copies.) I wonder that at the bottom is only a thin red line instead the blue/white colours. Compare your Stein with the Stein in chapter 2.) Die Form des Krug Henkels It looks similar... Unfortunately there are a few facts against an original one. 1) Ludwig II (if he is it) 2) no blue/white stripes 3) no match with the name 4) there are no photos from the inside of the lid. The inside must be brighter than the outside 5) no list of comrades from the company. No list = no check... I have three Steins. Each has a list ( compare here): https://www.ebay.de/itm/Reservistenkrug-Infanterie-Leib-Regiment-7-Kompanie-Munchen-1904-1906/192824272047?hash=item2ce538e4af:g:4cwAAOSwuTxWArgv

I don´t think either... The Stein is from 1899. By outbreak of the war he was around 36, so probably he served with Landwehr or Landsturm, if he did serve...

I also read Lenhard. The name ain´t too rare: https://www.kartezumnamen.eu/en/index.php?sur=Lenhard&s=Search By the way... Congrats to 28.000! Me, I did the 25.000th today in our forum!

Do you have a close-up of the script, please?