Albert

Duh, maybe a guy should take the time to look at everything. This is getting interesting: From 16.10.1941 till 15.03.1942 Pasman lived in his home area which was occupied by the Germans. During that time he was a partizan. After he had gotten to the Soviet side he got demoted to private and put into an NKVD camp for a check "gosudarstvennaja spetsial'naja proverka". Only on 30.03.44 he got reinstated.

Hello Rick, Interesting observation! Possibly because he was considered not 100% trust worthy for having been in a pocket from 16.10.1941 till 15.03.1942. What do you think? Best regards, Albert

If I may, here are some corrections and additions: 1. Last Name: Pasman 3. Military Rank: Senior Lieutenant 6. Place of birth: Smolensk oblast', Monastyrschenskij rajon, village Krutaja 7. Party Membership: not a member 8. Education: "middle" (= 10 grades which allow to enter university) 11. Place of Service and position occupied when awarded: CO of Communicatiosn Platoon, 2nd Rifle Btln., 1266 Rifle Rgt. 12. Current place of Service and position: Deputy Company CO 13. Home address: City of Gor'kij , Grusinskaja Street 12b Appartment 8 14. Awards: also Medals for the taking of K?nigsberg, and Victory over Germany In a nut shell: Sr.Lt. Pasman received the OGPW 1st Class for upkeeping communications between Btln and Rgt HQs and their rifle companies during an advance. In the period of Jan. 23rd till 29th 1945, he repeatedly reestablished commo lines severed by the enemy. When the fighting was heaviest, he personally went out upto fifteen times to reestablish commo, and in doing so has displayed gallantry and courage. Best regards, Albert

Hi Ed, Yes, he was an anti-aircraft gunner. "Strelok" means "gunner" in general terms too; in a tank he'd be a "strelok tankist". But he used his AK to attack the "rebels" or "dukhi". BR, Al

Well, in that case I am right Please, read the rest of the thread too; there is more reg. this issue. However, you are wrong: There is a Russian name Никандр, it is archaic, as written above, and derived from a saints name like the rest of the ones from this family of names (see also Nikon). Peasants often used such "liturgical" names. Ты посети поисковые сайты, наверняка найдешь многое об истории этих древних имен. Но я с тобой полностью согласен, что это именно Никанор, как я первоначально и писал. Меня сбил уважаемый коллега и тот факт, что Никонор чаще всего пишется через "О" а на доке Герда через "А". Да Бог с ними, этими "странниками и отцами Никонорами". А то, что ты русский, это ничего, даже хорошо Удачи, Альберт

A BA, a MA, and an almost PhD (had to redefine life at "abd" level) in Slavic studies; plus teaching Russian for a couple of years... Spent a semester in St. Petersburg and two in Kiev. That's only the formal training part .

My pleasure Gerd, I looked at the Nikandrovich / Nikanorovich guy again. Not really sure now. First I thought its Nikanorovich, after Rick's post I fugured well it's probably Nikandrovich. Now you brought the thread back up and it made me look at it again... The "d" in Nikandrovich looks too much like the "o" in the same name to be a "d". Also the "d" in the word "rjadovoj" (private) which was written by the same hand looks like your more typical "d" and not like the "d" in Nikandrovich; if it is Nikandrovich. Another thing is that Nikandr really is more archaic than Nikonor (also, even though more rarely, spelled Nikanor) which can be encountered even today. Oh how I love the American printed-style handwriting Best regards, Albert

Hi Gerd, Junior Sergeant Rodchenkov, Semjon Il'ich made out by Glinkovskij rajvoenkom (=> entspricht in etwa unserem KWEA) signed by some Captain, whose name I won't even try to read as it starts with Ag and ends in ~~~~ BR, Albert

Oops, Rick is correct; the patronymic indeed is Nikandrovich.

Hi Gerd, Long time no hear. "Private Kotsjuba, Pavel Nikanorovich" "21st Separate Guards Rifle Brigade" Signed by "Hero of the SU" Guards Major General Muzykin Best regards, Albert

Looks good !

Looks like another nice #2 got wasted

The badge:

Case with badge inside:

Dear All, Again, thanks a lot for your advice. I finally picked up the KGB badge and would like to share some images. First is the case. Is this a standard case for this badge?

Dolf, I looked at those posts but noticed that letter only now. Looks to me like a mint worker's initial often encountered on Soviet screw-back orders probably of that period of time. Sweet! Albert

Wow, is that what I think it is Any chance of a close up?

In the meanwhile I got a bigger pic of the Nr. Still need to see it in flesh but the handwriting is perfectly fine. The figure 8 is probably one of the more dificult ones to engrave and here it's just perfect. So if this order was renumbered, which I doubt, then most likely directly at the Monetnyj Dvor. Speaking of scratches the whole top of the Order of Sukhe Bator seems to be scratched or polisched for absolutely no reason at all. Sometimes scratches are just that: scratches. I guess.

Hello Dima, While certainly possible, I know what you mean, it is impossible to tell from those photos. I have decided to go for it and will give it a close examination once I have it. The figures themselves do not raise any concern though. But following that train of thought, did the Mongolians also reissue orders the way the Soviets did; roughly altered Orders of Nevsky come to mind as one example of what I mean. Best regards, Albert

[attachmentid=48049][attachmentid=48049] Thanks again! I asked him to put it on hold for me. The other items he is selling are not so rare and rather expensive. He has an Order of Combat Red Banner / Order of Military Merit / Order of Polar Star s/b no base / Order of Palar Star p/b. The prices are not competitive though. He also has a cased badge of honored KGB employee. Price is borderline and I am still thinking... Best regards, Albert

No worries there, Bob. My financial situation will put a lid on the "collecting" of Mongolian awards quite quickly It's just that a guy is selling a part of his collection and the SB and this OPS are the only rare and affordable ones. The rest is common stuff and price-wise unenticing.

Hi Dolf, That's good. As long as noone manipulated the number to either make the order more interesting by placing it into a certain era / category or to obscur the lead to the recipient. It's not mine but I can post this pic of the reverse. Sorry, don't have better pics. Best regards, Albert

For same reason numbers were scratched out, to make the original number untraceable to the owner. Well, that's an observation from collecting Soviet awards. Maybe Mongols were less paranoid. So you too think it's ok? If so is a price of EUR 175 ok for such a piece? The rest is ok. Thanks, Albert

Dear All, What do you think about this number on a type 1 Polar Star? The "1" is longer than the rest. I don't think it was added but still would like to hear your opinions. Would be great if a similar number could be located for comparison. Thanks and best regards, Albert

Thanks Jan, I certainly won't be able to afford collecting Mongolian awards but would like to own a couple of them