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There have been very interesting topics about Serbian orders with brilliants on the forum lately so I decided to start one more on the subject. Serbian Red Cross Order with Brilliants (2nd - Kingdom era type) was offered by La Galerie Numismatique couple of years ago, this is their description: "A pinback badge for Princely Ladies in gold, brilliants and enamels, made with the most accurate jeweler’s workmanship; the double eagle and the royal crown profusely set with brilliants and diamond’s chips, the reverse with pin and safetycatch. An extremely rare and attractive decoration awarded to ladies of the highest nobility, in almost perfect condition, besides slight signs of wear." Unfortunately no provenance nor dimensions, unknown producer and no pictures of the back side which would be very interesting to see. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-7937-0-32677500-1397817021.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-7937-0-49093200-1397817029.jpg

Greetings Daniel, Nice Collection! First two pictures - badges from Royal era for shoulder boards, caps and cockades. Third picture - perhaps not related to Serbia except for maybe bomb - badges like that were also used for shoulder boards. As for the crowns I don't remember seeing those two big ones in the top row and one smaller bellow them in use in Serbia/Yugoslavia. Last picture - collar badges from Socialist era. Can I perhaps help you with something else?

Thank you very much Rogi!

I could be wrong but I think that 2nd classes were made both out of silver and from some other metal, probably bronze. When you take a look at the back sides of the order you can notice that there are pieces with smooth and shinny (I believe that those are made out of silver regardless of hallmarks) and crude surface (bronze?). I say bronze because their surface looks similar as on 3rd class orders made out of that metal. As for the size of the holes, I am pretty sure that the variants with smaller holes were made first, unfortunately I do not know when exactly was the large holes variant introduced. There are fakes of Yugoslav orders but luckily I don't remember seeing any decent ones of this particular order.

Joking aside my opinion - definitely not original, when you take a look at photos from that period (1943 onward) ribbons on medals are with stripes, at least I've never seen anything different...

And not only medal, order as well

Hm, perhaps I also have one of those rare early Soviet variants

Greetings Georg, I have never heard of that, completely red ribbon or just with red stripes instead of the blue ones?

I think I first saw it couple of years ago in some kind of a -not for sale- category. If I remember well Montenegrin Golden Red Cross Order was there as well. The thing that I would like to know the most about this order is who received it...

Unfortunately I really don't know anything about it. Considering that it was found in Serbia I presume they belonged to a White Russian officer who came here after the Revolution.

Back side:

My humble and late contribution. There's a piece of metal inside both of them.

Could this by any chance be Russian? Person who owns them thinks that they are Serbian but for some reason they make me think of Russia (even though I'm clueless when it comes to that field)...

Great topic, many thanks for your effort. I apologize for going a little bit off topic but it might be interesting to mention that apart from many of our people even the two cities in Serbia were awarded with Czechoslovakian decorations. I believe that Belgrade and Šabac were awarded with the War Cross in 1925. Šabac received this decoration because of it's casualties, that whole area suffered very much from the Austro-Hungarian retribution. After occupying the city their troops devastated it and committed many crimes against the civilian population which was cut in half by the end of war. The Cross can be seen on coats of arms of both cities. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-7937-0-65295400-1396982166.pnghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-7937-0-84274400-1396982239.png

Great piece with very well preserved box, can't get much better than that My congrats!

My pleasure, I couldn't agree more. One more photo of the actual II category uniform. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-7937-0-83224900-1396973467.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-7937-0-03689900-1396973475.jpg

Carol I and Rogi thank you both

I would say that the order on both bars goes like this: Crown with Swords 4th class, Star with Swords 5. class, Crown with Swords 5. class, Star 5th class. I do not know much when it comes to Romanian order of precedence but that sounds logical... Or am I wrong? By the way how rare are ribbon bars like this?

Detail.

Back side.

Second one with one more ribbon and slightly different order of ribbons. 1. Order of the Star of Romania (Order of the Crown) with Swords 4. class, Military Virtue Medal ribbon 2. Order of the Star of Romania (Order of the Crown) with Swords 5. class, Military Virtue Medal ribbon 3. Order of the Star of Romania (Order of the Crown) with Swords 5. class, Military Virtue Medal ribbon 4. Order of the German Eagle with Swords 5. Order of the Star of Romania 5. class (2nd type) 6. Medal for 25 Years of Military Service 7. WW1 Commemorative Cross 8. Crusade Against Bolshevism Medal 9. WW1 Victory Medal 10. King Carol I Centennial Medal

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Back side.

I've recently picked up these two bars and I need some help with identification. 1. Order of the Star of Romania (Order of the Crown) with Swords 4. class, Military Virtue Medal ribbon 2. Order of the Star of Romania (Order of the Crown) with Swords 5. class, Military Virtue Medal ribbon 3. Order of the Star of Romania (Order of the Crown) with Swords 5. class, Military Virtue Medal ribbon 4. Order of the Star of Romania 5. class (2nd type) 5. Medal for 25 Years of Military Service 6. WW1 Commemorative Cross 7. The King Carol I Centennial Medal 8. Crusade Against Bolshevism Medal 9. WW1 Victory Medal

Medal for Merits in the Fields of Defense and Security. orden_master - http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/21594-medal-for-merit-in-security-and-defence/ http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-7937-0-43685700-1396375371.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-7937-0-23592500-1396375378.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-7937-0-95303700-1396375388.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2014/post-7937-0-38487700-1396375402.jpg