J Temple-West

The only other mark...

The only sawbacked bayo I've ever owned.... M1884-98 Mauser Bayonet for NCO.

I looks like a nice early example in very good condition.

Thanks for taking the time, Daniel...and thank your friend.

Oh, good...a man who knows his wound badge makers. Daniel, any ideas on the maker of this silver 1st pat?

Superb example, Jody

Both look to be nice originals... Having the urkunde for the 2nd class Luftschutz medal will up the value, if sold as a set. As to values... these change from continent to continent so best to do an internet search.

official vehicle plaque for the 1933 Deutscher Luftsportverband (DLV) Air Show held in Saxony

So, as to classes... 1st class (pin back), 2nd class attached to a ribbon by way of an eyelet and ring soldered to the top of the cross. As to variants...this pertains to the way that a cross can be attributed to a particular maker (if no maker mark is present) as each maker has different die characteristics, finishing, pin/hinge/catch etc. To make things even more complicated, crosses, by a particular maker, may have used more than one die and different materials in the production process but there is usually, how ever small, an indicator as to who the maker was....if not, these crosses are , and this goes for the entire range of awards and badges of the time, classed as 'maker unknown'

Enamel paint. A couple more showing the same finish. 1st pattern..cut out 2nd pattern.

I would say original paint with a replaced pin rivet.

Hi, Martin Firstly, and on a lighter note...we are all friends here so there is no need to stand on ceremony ...It's John. Right...yes, I would say that the pin has, at some point, has been replaced...when is anybody's guess. Still a nice example though. The only time that it may become an issue is when the day comes that you decide to sell it on to perhaps upgrade to an all original example. two examples by Schickle/Mayer

A little more info, on Luftwaffe Field Division 9, can be found below. http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliederungen/FelddivisionenL/9FDL-R.htm On using a, not particularly good, translation app... there is an event mentioned that I believe may give us the date, and cause, of the death of Major Heinrich Fritz Buschmann. German: Etwa am 22. Januar 1944 setzte sich die Division weitere 2 – 3 km südöstlich, mit Divisions-Gefechtsstand in Tuganizy, ab. Hier fiel der Kommandeur mit einem Teil des engeren Stabes während einer Lagebesprechung. Translation: On January 22, 1944, the division settled a further 2 – 3 km southeast, with division battle stand in Tuganizy. Here, the commander fell with some staff officers during a briefing. This can only mean that there was either an air raid, or ground attack, in which the commander and his officers were killed. Seeing that Major Heinrich Fritz Buschmann was a senior officer, he would have been present at such a divisional briefing.

sorry, missed the p.s.… certain makers did maker mark their early stamped badges, but not many. F.W Assmann was a manufacturer that maker marked their die stamped badges...but not always. Some examples of the same badge that were produced by Assmann, marked and unmarked. Kriegsmarine breast eagle for the summer uniform.

Good morning, Martin So, yes..an early die stamped example by Otto Schinkle. The link, below, will give a little background as to why these badges are commonly described as the 'Mayer/Schickle' design. There is one thing about this badge I would like to check on, and that is the pin. All 'Mayer/Schickle' badges have tool marks to the top of the pin. Going on the photo supplied, I can't see this characteristic which would mean that the pin has been replaced at some point. Here are a couple of pic's to show you what I mean.

leave it as it is....all part of the history.

Hi, Martin I'm going to put this one down to being a fake based on the Souval design. firstly, the MM 'L/50' is the LDO number for the company of Godet & Co.... not a known maker of combat awards. I have an example of a known fake in my files that matches this badge...note the missing leaf above the rifle strap. If I were you, I would send it back.

What an interesting thread.... My one and only Teno piece....found in a truck during the sale of occupation forces vehicles after the liberation of our islands. Along with a title for NSKK Transportbrigade Todt

An example in zinc by C.E Juncker... Looks like the pin has been replaced.

Not so much as a demotion, but more like a use of experienced staff officers in the formation of units in a desperate attempt to get boots on the ground. As with the formation of the transport units in the Stalingrad airlift, staff officers from Luftwaffe training schools were also used to form ground units and now that we have confirmation of Buschmann’s unit we can trace him back to being involved in the Luftwaffe training programme. Flieger-Ausbildungs-Regiment 62 Kommandeure: •Oberst Heinz Funke, 1.4.39 - 1.2.40 •Oberst Joachim Sperling, 1.2.40 - 31.10.40 •Oberst Ehrenfried Tschoeltsch, 1.11.40 - 14.1.41 •Oberst Hermann Muggenthaler, 15.1.41 - 5.10.42 Formed 1.4.39 in Quedlinburg from Flieger-Ersatz-Abteilung62 with: •Stab •I. Ausbildungs-Bataillon from Flieger-Ersatz-Abteilung62 •Flugzeugführerschule (Schule/FAR.62) from FFS A/B Quedlinburg II. Ausbildungs-Bataillon was formed in 1940, while the Schule/FAR.62left the regiment 16.10.41, and became FFS A/B62. Moved to Baden bei Wien (5.40), and Blois (1942). On 16.8.42 redesignated Flieger-Regiment 62. In 10.42 renamed Luftwaffen-Feld-Division 9. Organisation: 1939/40: Stab, I. (1-5), 6., 7., Schule 1941/42: Stab, I. (1-5), 7., II. (8-12) Luftwaffen-Feld-Division 9 The 9th Luftwaffe Field Division (German: 9.Luftwaffen-Feld-Division) was an infantry division of the Luftwaffe branch of the Wehrmacht that fought in World War II. It was formed using surplus ground crew of the Luftwaffe and served on the Eastern Front from late 1942 to June 1944. It was badly mauled during the Soviet offensive of January 1944 near Leningrad. It was later merged with the 225th Infantry Division Kommandeure: •Oberst Hans Erdmann, 8.10.42 - 11.8.43 •GenMaj Anton-Carl Longin, 11.8.43 - 1.11.43 Ia: •Maj Egeler, 4.10.42 - 1.11.43 Formed 10.42 at Arys from Flieger-Regiment 62. The division consisted of: •Luftwaffen-Jäger-Regiment 17 •Luftwaffen-Jäger-Regiment 18 •Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung Luftwaffen-Feld-Division 9 •Luftwaffen-Artillerie-Regiment 9 •Pionier-Kompanie Luftwaffen-Feld-Division 9 •Luftnachrichten-Kompanie Luftwaffen-Feld-Division 9 •Kommandeur der Nachschubtruppen Luftwaffen-Feld-Division 9 Taken over by the Army on 1.11.43 as 9. Feld-Division (L) The division served under the following headquarters: 12.42 - 1.43 L.AK / AOK.18 Oranienbaum 2.43 - 10.43 III. LwAK / AOK.18 Oranienbaum

I look forward to seeing the rest of your collection...

A couple more of Deumer badges.... 1st pattern pilot qualification badges. left; a very early production piece obtained from the family of a pilot (unable to give the name of the recipient due to a promise made to the family) who was a member of the Legion Condor and went on to be involved in the Battle of Britain. Right: a slightly later example of Deumer's production of the 1st pattern PB....recipient unknown.

Cheers, Paul.. It joins another cased example by Deumer... 2nd pattern (Deumer parts) Pilot qualification badge. This one from the family of fighter pilot, Uffz Wilhelm "Willi" Koch.

An original W. Deumer case for a Radio Operator/Air Gunner badge..... Yes, as you may have guessed...an early example of the badge in tombak.