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  1. The stands are pewter, from a chain engraving shop that sells them as a stand for pewter diploma cases. (The shop has a *lot* of pewter in it!) I went looking for another example of my Edinburgh tipstaff, and the one listed here, No. 103, is classified as 19th century, with no monarch. What a glorious sight this is, though. Woolley and Wallis Silver catalogue from 2011. This must have been from someone's collection.
  2. Yes, John's got the SHC illustrated in his book as a Victorian example, plate 8, figure 1. Mine's got the W R on either side of the crown, though.
  3. Since we've moved onto Scottish Tipstaves, I figured I'd bring out the three I've picked up so far. William IV, Stirling High Constable, number 24. Formerly John Green's collection. Was never sure if it was the city or the castle. With the number, it makes more sense for the city, in my mind. Haven't seen any others. George III, Carmunnock Constable. Also ex-John Green. Missed out on the long staff, which was sold at an auction the year before this came up. George III Edinburgh High Constable, No. 114. Mervyn felt it was an 1801 or before because the coat of arms, although it does look like it's a crown in the center, rather than the 'elector's cap'.
  4. I have a six-foot Victorian administrator's staff, from Christ's Hospital. It's similar to the one shown in Mervyn's book, although I can't say for certain if it's the same one.
  5. This is one I owned for about 12 hours. I bought this Admiralty Oar off E-bay, only to wake up the next morning and found my money refunded by the seller. They claimed they had accidentally left off a number and thus I'd only paid a third of what they truly wanted for it. I wasn't ready to just hand over a bunch more money on their say-so, and our deal fell apart. Both Mervyn's and Alan's books say if you ever come across an Admiralty Oar, grab it. Even though it's outside my theme, this would have been a prize.
  6. Eh. Just update us and say what it is. Otherwise one day, someone's going to come across something like it, find your post during research, and scream at their monitor. "WHAT IS IT, TAYLORCOATES? WHAT DID YOU LEARN?"
  7. I have a suggestion, and I did a bit of looking beforehand, but couldn't reach a satisfactory conclusion. If CM Wood was indeed a RNWMP member, and in Ireland in 1911, he might not be in the 1911 Canada Census, nor as a visitor, in the Irish census. But he should be old enough that there should be indications of someone to match him in the 1901 and 1891 Canadian census records, which are all free and available from both Library and Archives Canada, and Automated Genealogy. Being a member of the Northwest Mounted, the obvious place to look for him would be in the western provinces & territories, although he could have lived in Ontario or Eastern provinces as a younger man. This assumes, however, that he didn't emigrate from elsewhere to Canada in the intervening years and didn't appear in a census count. In that case, there should be a passenger list showing entry to Canada.
  8. Nothing in Erland Fenn Clark's book. although he has a bit at the back with an overly large image of about a hundred undecorated truncheons. The individual ones are too small to make out any details, though. Clark has a couple of Victorian Met decorated pictures, though.
  9. The "X"s are another form of a checkmark. LAC uses George Bloome as an example card, and his medals were issued, even with an X through them. Same with Major Charles Ingels, whose Long Service Medal I've got, and he was a DSO winner. His B and V are crossed out. The Great War Forum suggests that the medals were not issued until after the war was over, and that includes 1919 in Siberia, so his discharge certificate would show that the medals weren't issued *yet*, and his Medal Index Card shows that the B was indeed entered, and issued.
  10. At most, he would have the British War Medal, as he was on garrison in the UK only, and not in a theater of war. Setting foot in France, for example, would have qualified him for the Victory. Was this card or something similar included in the PDF? https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/Pages/read-medal-card.aspx
  11. Thanks, Mike. I have a couple of others that are considered magistrate's staves, too, so that's a distinct possibility.
  12. Excellent advisement. Then my speculation is wrong and it was indeed made as a George IV. Given the official Force was formed only four years later, either there's a narrow window when it was made, or they had a parish constable still around while putting together a police force.
  13. There is no database, per se. www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/search.aspx The Service Files at Library and Archives will have the Medal Cards for WWI, perhaps even online if your ancestors' files have been digitized for download. That will tell you Star, War & Victory, and any gallantry medals awarded. https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/military-medals-1812-1969/Pages/military-medals-honours-awards.aspx This database is for Long Service, both Colonial and Efficiency, as well as Gallantry and Pre-WWI service medals. Coronation and Jubilee, though, would be much trickier.
  14. Woo. Now I can finally comment, because my alleged item finally arrived and I had the chance to handle it and give it a closer inspection. I asked you for your thoughts on the Dundee tipstaff/short staff, because to my mind, the best source after my books and my own knowledge is having another person give it a once-over. They're not buying it and can resist the siren song long enough to tell me if I perhaps missed something. Despite all my attempts to prove what I saw wasn't real, I still purchased it, because people I trusted said the same thing over and over: "Gut feeling is, it's good. Take the risk."
  15. Well, after waiting for Customs to finish playing around with it, I finally received my latest Scottish staff. A fellow medal collector pointed it out to me, knowing I collect this type, and I must have consulted at least half a dozen people, including some on this forum as to its authenticity. The Dundee Police Force was officially formed in 1824, and all known examples of their truncheons, including those in John Green's book, are those of the 'traditional' variety, as shown here: This one is oak, 67 cm long, by 3 cm in diameter, and bears the George IV (1820 - 1830) cipher, crown, and an 'urn of lilies', which is the Dundee crest. It's also not in any of my books, which are my first source of information. I had to rely on gut feeling, as well as comparing it with those already in my collection, and some other 'unknowns' I know of, then I sent out a flurry of messages. Everyone I asked said the same thing: 'On first look, it seems good, so take the chance'. So I did! Left is the Dundee staff, and on the right is one of my own, a George III from Brechin. Perhaps it was originally a George III that was changed to a IV, the way the narrow right arm of the V comes in compared to the left, but that's mere speculation.
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