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FYI....... HMS Curzon (K513) was a Captain-class frigate of the British Royal Navy that served during World War II. The ship was laid down as a Buckley-class destroyer escort at the Bethlehem-Hingham Shipyard at Hingham, Massachusetts on 23 June 1943, with the hull number DE-84, and launched on 18 September 1943. The ship was transferred to the UK under Lend-Lease on 20 November 1943,[4] and named after either Captain Henry Curzon, who commanded Pallas at the First Battle of Groix (1795), or Captain Edward Curzon who commanded Asia at the Battle of Navarino (1827). There is official uncertainty about which is correct.[ HMS Fittleton (M1136), a Ton-class minesweeper of the Royal Navy, renamed HMS Curzon between 1960 and 1975. HMS Curzon (K513) was a Captain-class frigate of the Royal Navy, in commission from 1943 to 1946. HMS Osprey was an 18-gun sloop launched in 1797 and broken up in 1813. HMS Osprey was a 12-gun brig launched in 1844 and wrecked in 1846. HMS Osprey was a Vigilant-class wooden screw gunvessel launched in 1856 and wrecked in 1867. HMS Osprey was an Osprey-class composite screw sloop launched in 1876 and sold in 1890. HMS Osprey was a Gipsy-class destroyer launched in 1897 and sold in 1919. Shore establishments HMS Osprey was an anti-submarine training establishment established at Portland between 1924 and 1941, when its functions were transferred to Dunoon. HMS Osprey was at Dunoon until 1946, the name also being allocated to a smaller base established at Belfast in 1943. Osprey recommissioned at Portland in 1946, became a base in 1948 and was closed in 1995. The helicopter station closed in 1999. HMS Zulu (1909), a 1905 Tribal-class (or F-class) destroyer that served in World War I HMS Zulu (F18), launched in 1937, a 1936 Tribal-class destroyer that served in World War II HMS Zulu (F124), launched in 1962, a Tribal-class frigate HMS Rhyl was a Rothesay or Type 12I class anti-submarine frigate of the British Royal Navy, launched by Lady Macmillan on 23rd february 1959 and commissioned in October 1960. Following Royal Navy service she was sunk as a target in 1985. Mike

Hi Peter...... Sorry but it was not SH but the previous liberal govt. that did the most damage...... Mike Here is some info from the BMF..... I am a registered military history researcher in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada at the Library and Archives Canada. If you require information on Canadian medal recipients or military research in general please visit my website ( Military Research and Consultancy ) at... www.mrandc.ca It is possible to access all WW 1 personnel records and KIA records for WW2 service members. If you have proof of death for WW 2 veterans ( they must be deceased for at least 20 years ) I can submit to view the file. This unfortunately takes a couple of months to process but is worth it if you are looking for information on WW 2 medal recipients. Regards Ken Joyce

Good Morning Lambert..... http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.01-e.php?&id_nbr=513898&interval=20&&PHPSESSID=km2lcaapjcb6b78f4behc2ve74 Mike

Good Morning Lambert..... You can contact LAC and order his full service documentation...... Not just his enlistment forms..... Mike

Hi Jonas..... Sorry..... You are right ...... Damn...... Was reading the wrong line in KK..... Mike

Good Afternoon Timo.... QUEEN'S OWN YORKSHIRE DRAGOONS, K.K. 1409, Year 1951 Mike

Good Afternoon Everyone….. Went Garage Sale’ing Saturday morning and I am ecstatic with my finds…… At one location I was able to obtain a Military Drum, a Victorian Queens Own Rifles of Canada and a Victorian / Boer War Canadian Helmet Plate….. I asked the seller, who was in his early 20’s, if he had any knowledge of who it belonged to but he did not it was just in among a number of items that he had been given by his Grandfather, where he had obtained them he had no idea…… I asked but there were no medals of any kind to be found….. The drum is marked with a makers name: “Whaley Royce & Co. / Limited / Toronto…… This according to what I can find it is a model “B” and has the serial number H330 again what I can find out so far means that it is Drum 330 manufactured in the year “H” which was 1895….. The company imported a line of musical instruments that the sold under the “Imperial” name and so marked so this one was made in Canada….. I understand that up until 1920 they made their own instruments along with importing them…. Now here is where I try to put 2 and 2 together…… I am sure that the Queen’s Own must have had a Band at that time, the turn of the century, and maybe this drum was used by them at that time…. The Owner of the Cap Badge may have been a drummer and been one of the volunteers with the Second Special Service Battalion that was formed for service in South Africa….. When he returned he may have gone back into the band….. I know that the wooden rings are painted Red / Blue / White / Blue / Red which has been repainted and the ropes have been most likely replaced and have been whitened with webbo. The snare lines underneath are cat gut and the material holding the leather tension straps are also cat gut I do not know when that was last used….. I am going to leave it the way it is and not even clean the brass…… If there are any experts out there that have any knowledge about military band instruments please let me know your ideas…… What would have been the colours on the wood if the drum had been Q.O.R.... Thanks for looking…… Mike

Good Morning Mervyn..... I am sure that you have heard of the Calgary Stampede the Roedo and Fair that is held here in Calgary every year..... Well one portion of it is the Arts Festival...... Local and International artists bring their works, mostly with a western theme but not all, for show and sale...... A couple of years ago they had a big display or Remington and Russell works..... There are some fantastic bronzes and looking at the prices are very reasonable...... A couple of years ago I was able to purchase a bronze of Nelson and Napoleon each about 20 inches high..... The one thing that I wish I had bought was a 1/2 life size painting of Lt. Colonel Sam B. Steele but I did not have the $600.00 at the time....... One of the nice things is that the youngsters all stay out on the midway after all they come for the fun not the art and therefore it is not to crowded...... Mike

They are properly identified...... First Edition, Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE), and Second Edition, Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE)..... Mike

For your viewing pleasure also..... Mike

Hi Deelibob...... I am sure that there are many...... The same as the unit that I am working on as just about every member was from another...... Mike

Hello Tom...... Welcom to the forum....... The Truncheon is a police issue from the Victorian era....... The V.R. stands for Victoria Regina or Queen Victoria...... There is a truncheon collector here in the forum and maybe he can add some more information..... Mike

Good Evening Everyone…… For your enjoyment….. Just posting a few pictures of The Absent Minded Beggar Plaque, A Gentleman in Kharki…… A silver plaque sized 11 ½ Inch by 7 ½ Inch, mounted on a 11 ¼ Inch by 15 Inch Oak board….. High relief figure of the Daily Mail – Absent Minded Beggar….. Impressed in plague under left foot: “A Gentleman in Kharki” Bronze Plaque on bottom heavy engraved “PRESENTED BY THE BOROUGH OF REIGATE – IN RECOGNITION OF LOYAL SERVICES – IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN 1900 – 01,” 4 inch by ½ inch….. Makers name on reverse: D. George Collins, Manufacturing Silversmiths, 116 Newgate Street, London….. Mike

Will do Mervyn...... Mike

TITLE: TRANSVAAL CUP MEDALLION METAL: BRONZE NAMED: YES (THIS EXAMPLE BLANK) SIZE: 36mm HERN'S CATALOGUE NUMBER: NOT APPLICABLE HIBBARD'S CATALOGUE NUMBER: NOT APPLICABLE GEORGE A. BROWN PAGE: NOT APPLICABLE CASED: NO CLASSIFICATION: SHOOTING PRIZE MEDALLION DESIGNER / MAKER: UNKNOWN OBVERSE: SURROUNDED BY OAK LEAF WREATH, WINNER OF THE TRANSVAAL CUP REVERSE: IN 13 LINES: THIS CUP / OPEN TO ANY MEMBER / OF THE / CANADIAN CONTINGENTS / IN / SOUTH AFRICA / 1900 / WAS PRESENTED BY / CAPT. A. G. BELL, SCOTS GUARDS / COMMANDING THE MAXIM GUNS / 1ST CONTINGENT / A.D.C. TO H.E. EARL OF MINTO / GOVERNOR GENERAL. NOTE: I have not been able to find any more information on this medallion as to award..... Any assistance with this medallion would be greatly appreciated.....

Good Morning Mervyn....... To answer our questions...... Yes the Association does exist but is now called The Dominion of Canada Rifle Association (D.C.R.A.), just a little change in the order of the name..... No the prize is no longer awarded and from what I understand was only awarded 3 times..... The medallion is from my collection of Boer War Medallions which I will post one every so often....... Mike

Hello David...... As far as an L.S.G.C. to an officer..... Officers as Gentlemen were not normally entitled to a LSGC as Officers at that time were expected to have Good Conduct and perform Long Service and therefore did not need to be rewarded for it...... Now I have seen Officers from that period wearing a LSGC, but yes these are people who have served the required time in the ranks before being commissioned...... I have a group in my collection that starts off in the Boer War as a Corporal in the Gordon Highlanders and between the the BW / WW1 went into the Indian Army as a Sub-Conductor and then a Conductor with the Indian Ordnance Corps...... Then served with the IOC during WW1 with the rank of Captain and no L.S.G.C....... Mike

TITLE: THE HAROLD BORDEN MEDAL METAL: BRONZE NAMED: NOT OFFICIALLY SIZE: 47mm HERN'S CATALOGUE NUMBER: NOT APPLICABLE HIBBARD'S CATALOGUE NUMBER: NOT APPLICABLE CASED: NO CLASSIFICATION: DRAC PRIZE MEDAL DESIGNER: ALLAN WYON SC OBVERSE: DULCE ET DECORUM EST PRO PATRIA MORI, Named buts of HAROLD LTHROP BORDEN REVERSE: Top: DOMINION RIFLE ASSOCIATION OF CANADA Center: A FATHER'S TRIBUTE TO / HAROLD LOTHROP BORDEN / LIEUTENANT / ROYAL CANADIAN DRAGOONS / KILLED AT WITPOORT / SOUTH AFRICA / 16 JULY 1900 Bottom: PRIZE FOR RIFLE SHOOTING

Good Morning Paul....... I would like to find out what you mean by a basic QSA...... I have been collecting them for nearly 40 years and have seen the fluctuation in prices over the years...... I have copies of all but one or two of the medals year books going back to the very first one and of course the Spinks..... When you look at a QSA with Cape Colony, Orange Free State and Transvaal which you could say is basic, to one Unit will be worth lets say $100.00 and then you could look at another Unit and will pay $450.00, both medals to a private...... And I will not go into the huge argument over additional charges for Ghost Dated and so called normal reverses...... There are so many ways to value a collection as there are collections....... And comparing prices today vs prices 40 years ago you also have to compare what the value of money was then...... My collection is now worth more, I feel, than what my house cost then....... But my big question is........ Are We Collecting for the Value of the Medal...... or Are we collecting the History or Keeping The Memory of the Man Alive......... Basically, The Man or the Money..... What is your reason for collecting..... Mike

Good Evening Everyone…… For your enjoyment….. Just posting a few pictures of The Absent Minded Beggar Plaque, A Gentleman in Kharki…… A silver plaque sized 11 ½ Inch by 7 ½ Inch, mounted on a 11 ¼ Inch by 15 Inch Oak board….. High relief figure of the Daily Mail – Absent Minded Beggar….. Impressed in plague under left foot: “A Gentleman in Kharki” Bronze Plaque on bottom heavy engraved “PRESENTED BY THE BOROUGH OF REIGATE – IN RECOGNITION OF LOYAL SERVICES – IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN 1900 – 01,” 4 inch by ½ inch….. Makers name on reverse: D. George Collins, Manufacturing Silversmiths, 116 Newgate Street, London….. Mike

Good Morning Mervyn..... The large medallion at the bottom is the City (of London) Imperial Volunteers medal of course with case (Hearn No. 178)..... The one on the shelf just above is the Princess of Wales Hospital (Hearn No. 60)...... Also - A Two handled cup is called a Loving Cup, a three handled cup is called a Tyg...... I picked up the matching Goblet at the Easter Gun Show this year...... Mike

Good Morning Mervyn...... The information that I have found out so far is that it was succesful....... Can you post a link to your earlier post...... Mike

Nice find Larry..... At least you got the chance to go around the whole show I only got to about 3/4's...... Mike

Yes Day One to the General Public but I am sure that you know there is a little bit of horse trading while the setup is going on...... LOL.......

Good Evening Everyone…… Well day two of the Calgary Easter Show is over…… A bit disappointed as there were not as many medal dealers there as usual so had to find something else to purchase, after all I could not let all that money burn a hole in my pocket….. I will admit there was a lot of Militaria of all different kinds but nothing for me……. Except…… This is what I did purchase……. A Sea Gallantry Medal (Board of Trade Medal for Gallantry at Sea) Named: JOSEPH TAYLOR of the FISHING BOAT “CONTENT” 13th JANUARY 1881 A photograph of Joseph Taylor A Royal Humane Society Medal Named: JOSEPH TAYLOR 13th JANUARY 1881 Along with these medals an photo were his Certificate of Competency and two copies of his Board of Trade Death Certificate…… Of course no research done yet…… Mike